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Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:07 pm

Today's Target and Pay Per release is now live

We Used To Know was released on the second Jethro Tull album, Stand Up, as they were starting to head out of their blues roots and into a more progressive direction. It features an interesting chord progression as it uses many chords available only in the melodic minor scale.

This guitar lesson explains the relationships between the chords, strumming in 6/8 time, and a way to add a second guitar part using partial chords up the neck. Any similarity to Hotel California (written many years later) is purely coincidental. ;) , when Neil played these side by side..well... :blink:



Hope you enjoy this

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Tue Jul 07, 2020 5:42 pm

Hi Everyone,

I have a member that reached out about this lesson.

He asks - "In the chord progression ("We used to know") Neal is talking after the G chord comes the F#7 chord, I cannot see on what string he put his pink. Is it the B or the E?"

Any insight will be very much appreciated.

Thank you!
Jameela


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Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:35 pm

For an F#7 chord, what are the possible notes on the first or second string you could play? Try them all and tell me what you hear.

Neil


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Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:05 am

Neil

So would it be D# - Making it an add13 Chord ?

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Fri Jul 10, 2020 9:56 am

thereshopeyet wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:05 am
Neil

So would it be D# - Making it an add13 Chord ?

:o
Dermot,

If all we had added to the triad was a D# we would call it F#6, rather than add13, although they are the same. But we also have an E on the 4th string. So we have the 7th and if we also have the 6th (13th) then it is F#13.
That is not what I played here, just F#7, which could have two 7ths if I played another E on the 2nd string.

Neil


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Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:38 pm

Neil

Thanks

Dominant 7th chord - 1 3 5 b7 of the key

Where as the

13th is - 1 3 5 b7, 9, 11, 13 of the key

:oops:


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Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:00 am

thereshopeyet wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 4:38 pm
Neil

Thanks

Dominant 7th chord - 1 3 5 b7 of the key

Where as the

13th is - 1 3 5 b7, 9, 11, 13 of the key

:oops:
Right you are. But in the practical world most chords can be reduced to 4 important notes. For a 13th chord all you need are 1 3 b7 13.. A common fingering using the E Family to play a G 13 at the 3rd fret would be
3x345x (6th-1st strings).

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Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:54 pm

Neil

Thanks :D

So how would you include the 9th and 11 from a practical point of view.

Dermot

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Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:55 am

Hi Neal,

Thank you very much for your answer:

I tried the F # 7 with the B and E string, but I'm not going to use it, doesn't sound good

Last question and I will not bother you anymore:
In part 3: Six Eight Time. At 5:30 you are talking about 6 quick beats of 6, then you say down down up down up for each group of three, but after that do I continue down down up down up?
Thanks a lot,
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Regards from Holland.
Edwin


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Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:02 am

Hey Edwin,

Basically yes to your question. We can think of 6/8 time as two groups of three eighth notes when all eighths are down strokes. So the 6 beat pattern is D DUDU-D DUDU, or the same as a 3/4 pattern D DUDU done twice per measure. In the video I said something confusing when I said "6 beats of 6."
I also mentioned that beat 1 could be a bass note, which makes the pattern more interesting.

Neil


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