Thanks Den for a good example and a reminder of this great song.
Shel
Strumming in 6/8 time
I've got some good examples of how to strum 6/8 time after watching the three videos offered here (and getting more advice) and specifically the Elvis song.
I do know that the way you strum a song will always depend on the feel you're looking for. So for a bunch of different 6/8 songs it will vary depending on how energetic you want it to be (even just in parts), amongst other factors.
I think i explained my question really poorly, so I'm just back to clarify. I guess I was interested in how many potential strums 6/8 generally becomes, if you count a down stroke and an up stroke as two different strums. (The number in brackets are the beats - capital D or U is a stressed strum)
- 4/4 is generally a maximum of 8 strums, (1) D u (2) d u (3) d u (4) d u (of course you generally don't hit the strings for every one of those) - with at least the 1st down being emphasised. (And of course some sections of 4/4 can be more than 8 potential strokes if your launch into double strumming as Nessa does so well).
- 3/4 is generally a maximum of 6 strums, (1) D u (2) d u (3) d u ( the 1st down being emphasised)
Both of these time signatures have a quarter note as the beat.
So I was wondering whether you generally have:
- 6 potential strums for 6/8 (which could be (1) D (2) u (3) d (4) U (5) d (6) u (stresses on beats 1 and 4 - one of which is a down, one of which is an up); or
- 12 potential strums for 6/8 (which could be (1) D u (2) d u (3) d u (4) D u (5) d u (6) d u.
Dennis' song seemed to turn from arpeggiated eighth notes to D du d D du d. And Willem's seemed to fit a similar model. Obviously this approach works best for energetic sections of songs.
Nessa has shown me some other approaches for different songs depending on the feel. Thanks Ness, you're a gem.
So I've got a heap of approaches to try.
I'm really just trying to explain what I was talking about better, well I don't think I did a very good job the first time, maybe I still haven't.
OK - As I said, I think the best approach is song specific so I'm not really looking for more advice here. I just didn't want to have people read this and simply scratch their head thinking, "what tha'"
Shel
I do know that the way you strum a song will always depend on the feel you're looking for. So for a bunch of different 6/8 songs it will vary depending on how energetic you want it to be (even just in parts), amongst other factors.
I think i explained my question really poorly, so I'm just back to clarify. I guess I was interested in how many potential strums 6/8 generally becomes, if you count a down stroke and an up stroke as two different strums. (The number in brackets are the beats - capital D or U is a stressed strum)
- 4/4 is generally a maximum of 8 strums, (1) D u (2) d u (3) d u (4) d u (of course you generally don't hit the strings for every one of those) - with at least the 1st down being emphasised. (And of course some sections of 4/4 can be more than 8 potential strokes if your launch into double strumming as Nessa does so well).
- 3/4 is generally a maximum of 6 strums, (1) D u (2) d u (3) d u ( the 1st down being emphasised)
Both of these time signatures have a quarter note as the beat.
So I was wondering whether you generally have:
- 6 potential strums for 6/8 (which could be (1) D (2) u (3) d (4) U (5) d (6) u (stresses on beats 1 and 4 - one of which is a down, one of which is an up); or
- 12 potential strums for 6/8 (which could be (1) D u (2) d u (3) d u (4) D u (5) d u (6) d u.
Dennis' song seemed to turn from arpeggiated eighth notes to D du d D du d. And Willem's seemed to fit a similar model. Obviously this approach works best for energetic sections of songs.
Nessa has shown me some other approaches for different songs depending on the feel. Thanks Ness, you're a gem.
So I've got a heap of approaches to try.
I'm really just trying to explain what I was talking about better, well I don't think I did a very good job the first time, maybe I still haven't.
OK - As I said, I think the best approach is song specific so I'm not really looking for more advice here. I just didn't want to have people read this and simply scratch their head thinking, "what tha'"
Shel
michelew wrote:
Willem
I realy find it a good question Shel,,and lets go more into it, don't fade away,,first I thought that my strum was more for energetic or more tempo songs but I play it again slow and it could fit the bill but not just yet...its simply not the feel of the ballad,,,when I listen to Vanessa and Corina I simply could'nt count or find the beats (its me of course),,And I wanna know what she was doing,,,,when you look further on the net most people were just pickin,,not strumming,,but I realy 'm in for Nessa's strum/feel,,so I wanna know,wanna know..I've got some good examples of how to strum 6/8 time after watching the three videos offered here (and getting more advice) and specifically the Elvis song.
I do know that the way you strum a song will always depend on the feel you're looking for. So for a bunch of different 6/8 songs it will vary depending on how energetic you want it to be (even just in parts), amongst other factors.
I think i explained my question really poorly, so I'm just back to clarify. I guess I was interested in how many potential strums 6/8 generally becomes, if you count a down stroke and an up stroke as two different strums. (The number in brackets are the beats - capital D or U is a stressed strum)
- 4/4 is generally a maximum of 8 strums, (1) D u (2) d u (3) d u (4) d u (of course you generally don't hit the strings for every one of those) - with at least the 1st down being emphasised. (And of course some sections of 4/4 can be more than 8 potential strokes if your launch into double strumming as Nessa does so well).
- 3/4 is generally a maximum of 6 strums, (1) D u (2) d u (3) d u ( the 1st down being emphasised)
Both of these time signatures have a quarter note as the beat.
So I was wondering whether you generally have:
- 6 potential strums for 6/8 (which could be (1) D (2) u (3) d (4) U (5) d (6) u (stresses on beats 1 and 4 - one of which is a down, one of which is an up); or
- 12 potential strums for 6/8 (which could be (1) D u (2) d u (3) d u (4) D u (5) d u (6) d u.
Dennis' song seemed to turn from arpeggiated eighth notes to D du d D du d. And Willem's seemed to fit a similar model. Obviously this approach works best for energetic sections of songs.
Nessa has shown me some other approaches for different songs depending on the feel. Thanks Ness, you're a gem.
So I've got a heap of approaches to try.
I'm really just trying to explain what I was talking about better, well I don't think I did a very good job the first time, maybe I still haven't.
OK - As I said, I think the best approach is song specific so I'm not really looking for more advice here. I just didn't want to have people read this and simply scratch their head thinking, "what tha'"
Shel
Willem
Willem,
For strumming 'Cant't Help Falling in Love' try playing it as 3/4 with a swing time feel and watch the video, watch the video, watch the video. I think part of Nessa's secret is in the laid back feeling. Keep watching and feel it rather than trying to count rigidly.
Good luck.
M.
For strumming 'Cant't Help Falling in Love' try playing it as 3/4 with a swing time feel and watch the video, watch the video, watch the video. I think part of Nessa's secret is in the laid back feeling. Keep watching and feel it rather than trying to count rigidly.
Good luck.
M.
michelew wrote:
AH ,thx for lightin up a bit,,never thought a bout 3/4 swingtime,, I did thought and tryed a triple feel but that was'nt right eather..Willem,
For strumming 'Cant't Help Falling in Love' try playing it as 3/4 with a swing time feel and watch the video, watch the video, watch the video. I think part of Nessa's secret is in the laid back feeling. Keep watching and feel it rather than trying to count rigidly.
Good luck.
M.
Haha! :laugh: :laugh: Oh absolutely!!
willem wrote:
willem wrote:
nesh16041972 wrote:Awesome Vanessa and I could find the beats now,,Thx,, Mmmm a few minutes left he,,,what if you had a hour?,,I can guess it,,,you would go to your favo tunes or the supermarked. :laugh: B)