Recommend a Lesson - What's the point

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Fri May 10, 2013 4:25 pm

I just voted for it - up to 4 votes - vote here:

http://www.totallyguitars.com/song-voti ... pdugg_favs


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Fri May 10, 2013 9:45 pm

Check out his acoustic An Acoustic Evening at the Vienna Opera House. Currently my favorite CD.


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Fri May 10, 2013 9:47 pm

Lesson learned - Never ever post if you are having one of those days! ;)


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Fri May 10, 2013 10:01 pm

mshrad wrote:
Lesson learned - Never ever post if you are having one of those days! ;)
You aren't the first, and you won't be the last...... ;)

Have a great weekend....

Jason


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Sat May 11, 2013 9:28 am

suziko wrote:
In the spirit of changing the vibe of this thread: One positive that came for me from reading through this thread was that it reminded me that I wanted to learn to play "Year of the Cat!" So I sat down and learned it yesterday and today (just the chords and the signature lick)! That's been a lot of fun to add to my repertoire. Now if only I could sing it....
Your best bet would be to go to the International Guitar Camp, and have the man who wrote the song sing it for you. That would be something to remember.


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Sat May 11, 2013 4:50 pm

mshrad wrote:
Lesson learned - Never ever post if you are having one of those days! ;)


Spoken like a true founding member!
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Tue May 14, 2013 12:07 pm

I'm coming in late to this discussion, and I sure don't want to step on any
landmines, but I do understand and even share some of the opinions stated
earlier.

I guess I'm writing this as my own verbose 'Recommend-A-Lesson' :)

I pretty much gave up using 'Recommended Lessons' because I generally look for
challenging finger-picking songs which usually have just a few votes. So, it
feels like there's little chance of my recommendations ever getting attention.
Or, there are recommendations like 'The Clap' that have lots of votes and have
been asked for since the beginning, but still don't have a lesson. Yes, I
understand that this might qualify as one of the most challenging lessons to
make and learn, but that's what interests me in it so much. Besides, it's a
great tune.

I joined in the beginning because there were so many great finger-picking songs
to learn like:

On The Horizon, Embryonic Journey, Judy, Quicksand, Sleight Of Hand Classical
Gas, The Last Steam Engine Train, The Fisherman, Never Going Back Again, Linus
and Lucy, etc.

I loved learning every on of them! The most recent lesson in this category IMHO
was 'Mood For A Day' and that was nearly a year ago.

It feels like the majority of lessons of late are focused on guitar
accompaniment for singing tunes. I don't like to sing so learning most of these
songs doesn't interest me.

I'd like more lessons like those of the early days. So, I hope that this
qualifies as my 'Recommend A Lesson'. :)

-Tom

P.S. I hope this didn't come across as a complaint and more as a verbose
recommendation that's not possible to do on the 'Recommended Lessons' page.


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Tue May 14, 2013 1:37 pm

tvarga wrote:
I'm coming in late to this discussion, and I sure don't want to step on any
landmines, but I do understand and even share some of the opinions stated
earlier.

I guess I'm writing this as my own verbose 'Recommend-A-Lesson' :)

I pretty much gave up using 'Recommended Lessons' because I generally look for
challenging finger-picking songs which usually have just a few votes. So, it
feels like there's little chance of my recommendations ever getting attention.
Or, there are recommendations like 'The Clap' that have lots of votes and have
been asked for since the beginning, but still don't have a lesson. Yes, I
understand that this might qualify as one of the most challenging lessons to
make and learn, but that's what interests me in it so much. Besides, it's a
great tune.

I joined in the beginning because there were so many great finger-picking songs
to learn like:

On The Horizon, Embryonic Journey, Judy, Quicksand, Sleight Of Hand Classical
Gas, The Last Steam Engine Train, The Fisherman, Never Going Back Again, Linus
and Lucy, etc.

I loved learning every on of them! The most recent lesson in this category IMHO
was 'Mood For A Day' and that was nearly a year ago.

It feels like the majority of lessons of late are focused on guitar
accompaniment for singing tunes. I don't like to sing so learning most of these
songs doesn't interest me.

I'd like more lessons like those of the early days. So, I hope that this
qualifies as my 'Recommend A Lesson'. :)

-Tom

P.S. I hope this didn't come across as a complaint and more as a verbose
recommendation that's not possible to do on the 'Recommended Lessons' page.

Well, if you've learned all those already, you at least have a somewhat-solid position from which to complain! "Embryonic Journey," "Linus and Lucy" and a whole bunch of others are still in my queue from when I joined soon after the Target program launched, or from when they were posted. I think I could be on here for five more years and still not get to everything I want to.

That said, I hope there's a lesson on "Clap," too. I agree, though: it's probably about the hardest possible lesson to create. Neil has said he will get to it, though.


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Tue May 14, 2013 2:25 pm

Tom & Walt, (and any of the concerned silent majority)

I can honestly say I feel your pain as far as Clap, or the next blockbuster instrumental goes. Needless to say these are my favorite things to play, which creates a multi-edged sword as far as creating lessons on them. You would not believe how stressful it was to finally tackle Classical Gas, although it was a long time ago now.

I have let myself fall into the trap where a masterpiece tune deserves a masterpiece lesson, which creates a big stumbling block, maybe just perceived but real enough in my head, that makes it hard to get out of the blocks. I keep feeling I need to get a little further ahead in everyday-type lessons to allow the breathing room and space necessary for the killer tunes.

The solution might be to bring back the installment plan approach. Maybe I'll just get the music the way I like it and put it out before I start the videos. In any case, I think about those types of lessons everyday and it shouldn't take much more prodding to put an end to the procrastination.

As an afterthought- maybe if Walt comes to camp we will set aside a little time for Clap ;)

Neil


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Tue May 14, 2013 3:34 pm

TGNeil wrote:
Tom & Walt, (and any of the concerned silent majority)

I can honestly say I feel your pain as far as Clap, or the next blockbuster instrumental goes. Needless to say these are my favorite things to play, which creates a multi-edged sword as far as creating lessons on them. You would not believe how stressful it was to finally tackle Classical Gas, although it was a long time ago now.

I have let myself fall into the trap where a masterpiece tune deserves a masterpiece lesson, which creates a big stumbling block, maybe just perceived but real enough in my head, that makes it hard to get out of the blocks. I keep feeling I need to get a little further ahead in everyday-type lessons to allow the breathing room and space necessary for the killer tunes.

The solution might be to bring back the installment plan approach. Maybe I'll just get the music the way I like it and put it out before I start the videos. In any case, I think about those types of lessons everyday and it shouldn't take much more prodding to put an end to the procrastination.

As an afterthought- maybe if Walt comes to camp we will set aside a little time for Clap ;)

Neil
The "Classical Gas" lesson was killer. I was never a huge fan of that tune (though I liked it well enough, I guess), but when I watched the lesson, I thought -- yeah, I must learn this now. And I did. Lots of work, but totally worth it. It was the first truly "advanced" song I learned, I think. It also gave me a huge appreciation for the song itself that I never had before. I have to go back over it soon, because I've lost a lot of it since then.

I know this just a matter of your unreasonable perfectionism, and that you recognize it as such, so saying the following will probably have little effect, but: I'm positive that if you put a "Clap" lesson together right now, it would be similarly great, whether on the installment plan or all at once. The great thing about the Internet is, if you feel like you've missed something or didn't emphasize the right thing or whatever, you can always go back and amend. But I've never seen where you've had to do that before, except to add tab for chord solos. I certainly don't mean to rush -- I'm actually learning your version of "When I'm 64" right now, just from the downloaded song and your tab from your old site -- and it's really effing hard. And I haven't even touched "Embryonic Journey" yet.

I won't be able to make the camp. Maybe next time, though I think I have good reasons besides the main one -- my schedule -- for not taking part (the same ones that have kept me mostly out of the forums). I'll be there in spirit, though, hiding behind a giant redwood.

(Oh, and I don't mean "unreasonable perfectionism" an an insult. It's an affliction I share -- though not when it comes to the guitar, because I know I'll always be so far from perfect that it would be pointless.)


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