so this song as something in it to learn,,,etc
And we can find everything on this side,,its already there,,pffffff
Willem
tgvanessa wrote:
No Willem, the sheets aren't totally wrong.....the song ís in the key of G (the presence of an F-chord doesn't change that) relative to the capo. Absolute key is Bb, that's why the sheets said two bb (2 mollen). But please FORGET about the latter! :S
I mean, are we playing the piano or the guitar? Stick to the guitar, think in chordshapes and for now nót in absolute keys, this gets wáy too confusing. Once you got it all figured out for the guitar and you gotta tell another musician, bassplayer, pianist, only thén it'll be handy to know what the absolute key is by going up (in this case) three half steps, since you're capoed at the third fret. Again, in the guitarworld, think in chordshapes and relative to the capo.....I thought we had that cleared up... :S
Also I don't think the original poster (Kwadam) is looking for keys, just the chords and the picking.
My two cents....
willem wrote:wiley wrote:Yes Wiley,,,D# or Eb,,,I was so confused 'cos the sheet told me Bb(totally wrong) an other sheet told me G and capo up three frets,,can you understand how confused I was when I read what Scott was saying with the chords and I at my thoughts 'cos I could''nt place the F chord,,now I can,,As for the 'absolute' key - I can only refer back to several discussions about relative keys and absolute keys we have discussed before.
True enough, when we 'capo up' we do so to change the 'key' of a particular piece in reality we are changing the 'tone' (or pitch may be a better word here) of the guitar, the capo makes the fretboard shorter (more or less - in theory (it's actually called "scale length")). But we still think about the key, on guitar, in the same way we would as if we did not have the capo. This makes the 'thinking' part easier as we would use the same 'shapes' as we would if the capo was not there.
To find the 'absolute' key, the one we would tell all the other instruments we are 'really' playing in, we count up. So, key of C in 'open' position, we count up the number of frets we move the capo to.
open 1st fret 2nd fret 3rd fret 4th fret 5th fret 6th fret
C - C#/Db - D - D#/Eb - E/Fb - F - F3/Gb and so on and so on.......
as a further example;
G - G#/Ab - A - A3/Bb - B/Cb - C - C#/Db and so on and so on........
EDIT: That didn't turn out like planned, I'll try to get around to posting something a bit clearer.
Willem - two flats is B flat.
Lets say the song was written in C and then capod up three frets so it becomes Eb..
Willem