I'm working with the Pentatonic scale and I'm confused why it's broken down into 5 different patterns (boxes) when it much more logically fits into 3.
Does it have something to do with the 5 base open chords and positions? That makes it too confusing. At least to me.
Scale Confusion
there is a different pattern for each
C scale pattern goes with C chord
A scale pattern goes with A chord
G scale patern goes with G chord
E scale pattern goes with E Chord
D scale pattern goes with D chord
some call them patterns 1 2 3 4 5
some call it the CAGED system or patterns
I'm not familiar with sight enough yet to point you in the right direction
for visuals.....I'm sure there's a lesson somewhere here????
C scale pattern goes with C chord
A scale pattern goes with A chord
G scale patern goes with G chord
E scale pattern goes with E Chord
D scale pattern goes with D chord
some call them patterns 1 2 3 4 5
some call it the CAGED system or patterns
I'm not familiar with sight enough yet to point you in the right direction
for visuals.....I'm sure there's a lesson somewhere here????
Andy- Slinger is correct. If you've ever looked at the CAGED theory it's very similar. Each pattern represents a major chord or it's relative minor. You can visually see or find the chord shape in each pattern.
Five notes, five patterns. Seems pretty symmettical doesn't it?
The reason they aren't grouped into three patterns is they are continuous so depending on what key you are in you can start the pattern anywhere on the fretboard. If they were grouped into three groups this wouldn't work because you'd have to split a pattern when you changed keys. DON'T think of the patterns as individual (although it's easier to learn them that way)! Thinks of them as continuous. The notes on the right side of each pattern are the start, or left side, of the next pattern.
Just remember the root note on the low E in Pattern I is the key you are in. Fret any note on the low E, play Pattern I and you are in the correct key.
Just for grins, while you are playing the pentatonic scales, find the thirds in each pattern, flatten them a half step and you have the pentatonic blues scale! Pretty cool!
Good question buddy! :cheer:
Five notes, five patterns. Seems pretty symmettical doesn't it?
The reason they aren't grouped into three patterns is they are continuous so depending on what key you are in you can start the pattern anywhere on the fretboard. If they were grouped into three groups this wouldn't work because you'd have to split a pattern when you changed keys. DON'T think of the patterns as individual (although it's easier to learn them that way)! Thinks of them as continuous. The notes on the right side of each pattern are the start, or left side, of the next pattern.
Just remember the root note on the low E in Pattern I is the key you are in. Fret any note on the low E, play Pattern I and you are in the correct key.
Just for grins, while you are playing the pentatonic scales, find the thirds in each pattern, flatten them a half step and you have the pentatonic blues scale! Pretty cool!
Good question buddy! :cheer:
I actually have the book 'Fretboard Logic SE' which has both volumes 1 and 2 in it. I had read this but had mostly just glanced over it until now. I just went back and looked up the patterns and now I see (visually) which one goes with which chord.
This is one of those things where you already knew it, but just never put it together in this way before. Now that I see the individual patterns and the chords marked inside each one, it makes total sense to me. I now see the relationship between chords and scales.
I can now officially count this as one of those 'Ah-HA!' moments. LOL
This is one of those things where you already knew it, but just never put it together in this way before. Now that I see the individual patterns and the chords marked inside each one, it makes total sense to me. I now see the relationship between chords and scales.
I can now officially count this as one of those 'Ah-HA!' moments. LOL
Fantastic Andy!!
The light gets brighter!!!! aha
Like Bear says see the chord in the scale pattern your working on.
...also you might find something in TG Acoustic Genius series
I can't access but should be there, let me know
Fundamentals II
Major Scales & Patterns
Chapter 1: Major Scales I
Chapter 2: Major Scales II
Chapter 3: Major Scales III
Chapter 4: Major Scales IV
Chapter 5: Major Scale Patterns I
Chapter 6: Major Scale Patterns II
Blocks - Fundamentals III
Minor Scales & Patterns
Chapter 1: Minor Scales I
Chapter 2: Minor Scales II
Chapter 3: Minor Scales III
Chapter 4: Minor Scales IV
Chapter 5: Minor Scales V
Fundamentals IV
Pentatonic Scales & Patterns
Chapter 1: Pentatonic Scales I
Chapter 2: Pentatonic Scales II
Chapter 3: Pentatonic Scales III
Chapter 4: Pentatonic Scales IV
Chapter 5: Pentatonic Scales V
The light gets brighter!!!! aha
Like Bear says see the chord in the scale pattern your working on.
...also you might find something in TG Acoustic Genius series
I can't access but should be there, let me know
Fundamentals II
Major Scales & Patterns
Chapter 1: Major Scales I
Chapter 2: Major Scales II
Chapter 3: Major Scales III
Chapter 4: Major Scales IV
Chapter 5: Major Scale Patterns I
Chapter 6: Major Scale Patterns II
Blocks - Fundamentals III
Minor Scales & Patterns
Chapter 1: Minor Scales I
Chapter 2: Minor Scales II
Chapter 3: Minor Scales III
Chapter 4: Minor Scales IV
Chapter 5: Minor Scales V
Fundamentals IV
Pentatonic Scales & Patterns
Chapter 1: Pentatonic Scales I
Chapter 2: Pentatonic Scales II
Chapter 3: Pentatonic Scales III
Chapter 4: Pentatonic Scales IV
Chapter 5: Pentatonic Scales V
What I'm doing now is practicing each scale pattern individually.
As I memorize each one I should be able to solo on it easily. Once I have them all down solid, then I will have the entire scale and I should be able to run back and forth on the neck in my solos.
As I memorize each one I should be able to solo on it easily. Once I have them all down solid, then I will have the entire scale and I should be able to run back and forth on the neck in my solos.
AndyT wrote:
Do I see a video in the making? Sure would be nice to see/hear your progress. Maybe before and after videos: "here's where I am at the 1st of the year" and then a "here's where I am at the end of the year". Just a thought.......What I'm doing now is practicing each scale pattern individually.
As I memorize each one I should be able to solo on it easily. Once I have them all down solid, then I will have the entire scale and I should be able to run back and forth on the neck in my solos.