The Circle of Fifths

thereshopeyet
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Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:54 am

I've attached a document that contains mnemonics to help remember the Circle of Fifths.
There's an element of imagination when interpreting it, but I think the information provided
explains enough to figure out what I mean..... anyway......

I have a terrible memory and a few years back I wanted to memorise the Circle of Fifths
so I could remember fifths, relative minor keys, key signatures and order of accidentals.

Although I did this I have never really understood the practical application of the Circle of Fifths
when playing the guitar?

Edit
I also know that going counter clockwise around the circle, it becomes a Circle of Fourths.

:S

Please don't include either attachment in any quotes within the forum , so there is only one copy available.
If you see any errors, let me know and I will correct them.

Oh, Eborracum .... was Roman (Latin) for York .... I took ages finding it !!!

http://www.totallyguitars.com/images/fb ... 130310.zip

http://www.totallyguitars.com/images/fb ... tboard.zip


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Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:22 am

Wow, some work Dermot! :ohmy: :)

Would you know the notes on the 6th and 5th string?


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Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:46 am

Vanessa Wrote:
Would you know the notes on the 6th and 5th string?
Probably not as well as I should!


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Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:47 am

Well I'm asking because if you know the notes on at least those two strings, then you can easily find the 5th of any particular note, you know what I mean? (when I is on the sixth string, the 5th is a string below and two frets away. When your I is on the 5th string, the 5th is same fret one string up)

It's actually the way why I usually know the 5th's of each note (chord) quite instantly. So I know most of them by now, but when for instance I'm playing in Ab or something (on piano), I still visualize my fretboard (bottomstrings). It's a short cut which is shorter than just trying to remember it.

Just my two cents! :)


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Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:19 am

nesh16041972 wrote:
Well I'm asking because if you know the notes on at least those two strings, then you can easily find the 5th of any particular note, you know what I mean? (when I is on the sixth string, the 5th is a string below and two frets away. When your I is on the 5th string, the 5th is same fret one string up)

It's actually the way why I usually know the 5th's of each note (chord) quite instantly. So I know most of them by now, but when for instance I'm playing in Ab or something (on piano), I still visualize my fretboard (bottomstrings). It's a short cut which is shorter than just trying to remember it.

Just my two cents! :)
Vanessa, I have never heard of this method. Could you give a couple of examples so I'm sure not to screw it up?
Scott


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Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:13 pm

Alright, this is what I mean, at least this is how it works for me personally:



:)

sbutler wrote:
nesh16041972 wrote:
Well I'm asking because if you know the notes on at least those two strings, then you can easily find the 5th of any particular note, you know what I mean? (when I is on the sixth string, the 5th is a string below and two frets away. When your I is on the 5th string, the 5th is same fret one string up)

It's actually the way why I usually know the 5th's of each note (chord) quite instantly. So I know most of them by now, but when for instance I'm playing in Ab or something (on piano), I still visualize my fretboard (bottomstrings). It's a short cut which is shorter than just trying to remember it.

Just my two cents! :)
Vanessa, I have never heard of this method. Could you give a couple of examples so I'm sure not to screw it up?
Scott


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Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:15 pm

I am glad you brought this up Dermot and I give it a bit of attension again and now I see more what we all can find on that clock,,


Awesome Ness..


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Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:51 pm

nesh16041972 wrote:
Alright, this is what I mean, at least this is how it works for me personally:



:)

sbutler wrote:
nesh16041972 wrote:
Well I'm asking because if you know the notes on at least those two strings, then you can easily find the 5th of any particular note, you know what I mean? (when I is on the sixth string, the 5th is a string below and two frets away. When your I is on the 5th string, the 5th is same fret one string up)

It's actually the way why I usually know the 5th's of each note (chord) quite instantly. So I know most of them by now, but when for instance I'm playing in Ab or something (on piano), I still visualize my fretboard (bottomstrings). It's a short cut which is shorter than just trying to remember it.

Just my two cents! :)
Vanessa, I have never heard of this method. Could you give a couple of examples so I'm sure not to screw it up?
Scott

Sorry Ness but we crossed passed,,I think..


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Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:17 pm

willem wrote:
nesh16041972 wrote:
Alright, this is what I mean, at least this is how it works for me personally:



:)

sbutler wrote:
nesh16041972 wrote:
Vanessa, I have never heard of this method. Could you give a couple of examples so I'm sure not to screw it up?
Scott

Sorry Ness but we crossed passed,,I think..
Well cut me off at the knees and call me shorty! That is the circle of fifths made easy. Thanks a million Vanessa.


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Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:38 pm

Vanessa Wrote:
It's a short cut which is shorter than just trying to remember it.
Cool video ...... and yes that helps me too thanks
:)

I do understand how to located intervals going across strings ( Low E to high E) with respect to a root notes found on the 6th and 5th strings.
Seconds, Thirds, Fourth's, Fifths, etc.......

I watched Neils recent I'm Yours - Jason Mraz FOTW with Kevin (Target Lesson also) and I started to understand
as Neill goes into this in some detail. Neil discussed the relationship of Barre Chords in Keys from A and E families and their chord number fretboard logic.
It's is a great FOTW that I enjoyed very much.

still can't say I know for sure that I understand / am able to use the information conveyed in the circle fully.
So now I wonder if there are further applications of the Circle that I'm overlooking with respect to Chords, keys or anything ?

Of course, it may be because I'm looking for something that's not there!


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