Blues Scale

[thereshopeyet]

I'm not sure if this question makes any sense but.... anyway....

If the chords in the key of G = G, Am, Bm, C, D, Em, F#dim

How do you determine the chords in the key when playing within a
Blues Scale: G, Bb, B, C, D, Db E, F

:S

[willem]

I think the chord progression is invented first.

Then get to know that progression ..then play the notes over these progression mixing,sliding,hammering,pulloffs,vibrate,,long notes,short notes,,etc (its blues)

Willem B)

[jimi40]

So the intervals you have are

R m3 3 4 5 b5 6 m7

This is the minor pentatonic with the major 3rd added

minor pentatonic comes from the Aeolian mode which is the 6th degree of a major scale

G Aeolian is from the Bb major scale so you could play chords out of Bb

Not sure if this is right but it's fun to think about.

[thereshopeyet]

Jimi

I'm not sure how to reason it out, but you've sure given me something
to think about.



I wondered if the Blues Scale: G, Bb, B, C, D, Db E, F, might be Harmonised
in a similar manner to that of the major scale, following a pattern of whole step and half steps.
That said, I'm not sure if it works like that!

:ohmy: :S

Willem B) B)

[suziko]

Maybe I'm not understanding you, Dermot, but to my knowledge when you're playing a blues song, the chords are not altered in the way I think you are suggesting. For example, if I'm playing a standard blues progression in A, my chords would be just the typical I, IV, V chords: A,D and E. If I want to solo over that progression I would use a Pentatonic Blues Scale, which consists of: 1 (the tonic), b3 (flatted 3rd), 4, 5, and b7 (flatted 7th). Sometimes a passing b5 is added. So, In my example of the Key of A, I could play the notes: A, C, D, E, G with the optional note being Eb.

So in your example of playing blues in G, you'd just play G, C and D for a standard blues progression, but then use the Blues Pentatonic Scale to solo over that.

Does that make sense? I apologize if I'm misunderstanding what you're asking.

Suzi

[thereshopeyet]

Suzi,

Thanks.... Yes... you understand me fine....

I think that's why Willem said..... "Invent" :dry: :ohmy:

The notes I quoted are from the blues pentatonic scale as you point out. I think, as you say, would be used to solo over G, C, D.

I was away off on a tangent :S

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

:laugh: :laugh:

[willem]

thereshopeyet wrote:

Suzi,

Thanks.... Yes... you understand me fine....

I think that's why Willem said..... "Invent" :dry: :ohmy:

The notes I quoted are from the blues pentatonic scale as you point out. I think, as you say, would be used to solo over G, C, D.

I was away off on a tangent :S

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

:laugh: :laugh:

what you think of G7-C7-D7,,,,,,,,For more blues sound????

[jimi40]

The blues scale comes from the minor pentatonic (added b5) which comes from the Aeolian mode (minor scale)

I think we are all thinking along same lines

[suziko]

Good! I'm glad I understood you!

Yes, rhythm guitar in the blues is easy!! Mostly just 1,4,5. And, yes, you can add in a 7th of those chords (especially chords 4 and 5 if you like to make them sound even more bluesy. It's only when soloing that you have to know which notes are flatted.

cheers,

Suzi

PS. You could look at Ness's lesson on Tracy Chapman's "Give Me One Reason" if you want to learn more. I'm pretty sure that's even in G, like your example! Edit- nope, it's in F#. But move it up a half step and you get the picture

thereshopeyet wrote:

Suzi,

Thanks.... Yes... you understand me fine....

I think that's why Willem said..... "Invent" :dry: :ohmy:

The notes I quoted are from the blues pentatonic scale as you point out. I think, as you say, would be used to solo over G, C, D.

I was away off on a tangent :S

Thanks for clearing that up for me.

:laugh: :laugh:

[thereshopeyet]

Willem and Suzi

The 7th's .... ... more blue.....

It's really me that green !!!

If I had..... Link:- Three Wishes ...... I'd know all this stuff !!! :S

Thanks Thanks Thanks :dry:

:laugh: :laugh:

Edit

Suzi, I'll have a look at Tracy Chapman's "Give Me One Reason" .... thanks.