John D. Loudermilk Windy and Warm by thereshopeyet

[thereshopeyet]

Bob
Thanks for having a look and commenting.
I'll keep at it.



Dean
I think I know what you mean but I do agree with your earlier comment
that my timings not right and I need to be more aware where I am at any
beat of a measure. Thanks.

Marc
I see what you mean about turning my head when changing position.
I'll give that some attention.

I do practice it slower too but need to focus more on each measure and the note
with in them and ensure I sound them all correctly.

Your right about the slides..... fret 3 to 5 and back..... I can do them slowly but my fingers
can get in knots and miss notes when trying to go faster.
I think that slow and accurate is the way forward.

Thanks again to all of you.

Dermot

[suziko]

dtaylor wrote:

I shouldn't say this but I've never used a metronome, I'm a bad student!
I think it's more to do with just feeling the beat and knowing what sound you're trying to replicate, and knowing if what you're doing is 'right' when you play it.
As long as you can do that with each measure I wouldn't worry about trying to be metronomically accurate if you don't like to practice that way. But that's just me and probably 'bad' advice.

I'm with you, Dean. I never practice with a metronome, though maybe I should. I strive to replicate what I'm hearing- so that often means playing back Neil's lesson many times, or listening to it in GP (I actually prefer Neil because sometimes the computery-sound of GP throws me off). So I would say, Dermot, that if you hate working with a metronome, don't try to force it. But DO listen closely to what Neil is playing and see if you're replicating it. You could even make an audio recording of one measure and then compare it to what Neil's playing. That might help a lot. And, again, just take it measure by measure and try to get each one very close to right before moving on.

[mark]

Something to bear in mind about this style, is that the basis of it, is the alternating bass.

The bass should be played once on every beat. When you can hear the bass relentlessly beating away you know you have got it right.
I think you need to back to fundermentals and get this right. Once you have it, it opens the door to thousands of songs.

[thereshopeyet]

Mark and Suzi

I do think I need to back up for sure.
I'll look more closely at the alternating bass and take it measure for measure,
listen more closely to Neil and make comparisons.

Can you suggest another more basic song that focuses the alternate bass Mark?
Saying that I'll need to review the whole Windy and Warm lesson. :ohmy:

I do need to become much more time conscious too.
I can understand the notation but transferring that to my fingers and keeping on track is another thing !!
:S

Thanks

Dermot

[mark]

thereshopeyet wrote:

Mark and Suzi

I do think I need to back up for sure.
I'll look more closely at the alternating bass and take it measure for measure,
listen more closely to Neil and make comparisons.

Can you suggest another more basic song that focuses the alternate bass Mark?
Saying that I'll need to review the whole Windy and Warm lesson. :ohmy:

I do need to become much more time conscious too.
I can understand the notation but transferring that to my fingers and keeping on track is another thing !!
:S

Thanks

Dermot

I wasn't necessarily thinking of a song.
Take a three chord progression and play an alternating bass pattern to the three chords.
You can start by playing the same pattern over all the chords (just adjusting the bass notes for each chord)
Make sure it is smooth and in time.
After that you can try a different pattern and then mix the patterns up

[suziko]

thereshopeyet wrote:

Mark and Suzi

I do think I need to back up for sure.
I'll look more closely at the alternating bass and take it measure for measure,
listen more closely to Neil and make comparisons.

Can you suggest another more basic song that focuses the alternate bass Mark?
Saying that I'll need to review the whole Windy and Warm lesson. :ohmy:

I do need to become much more time conscious too.
I can understand the notation but transferring that to my fingers and keeping on track is another thing !!
:S

Thanks

Dermot

Dermot, I'm not sure if you've already tackled it, but I'd suggest checking out the lesson on Freight Train:

http://www.totallyguitars.com/target-so ... tar-lesson

It's a great song to use for practicing alternating bass and you could really focus on timing in it, too. It's easy (well, much easier than W&W!) and fun- a real classic!

Suzi

[thereshopeyet]

Hello Suzi

I haven't tried Freight Train, thanks for the suggestion and handy link.
I'll definitely have a look at it.


I've gone back to Windy and Warm video lesson. I'd forgotten just how much detail
is in there. The preview is a lesson of it's own where Neil explains longer term goals with the tune.
I need to work on getting the tune sorted first for sure.

There's also a great two hand view play through so will work on it measure to measure
and pay more attention detail. The breakdown..... it's endless.

I need to remember this when learning a tune .......to constantly review the videos.
There's always something else to absorb and it's very easy to steer of track.

Dermot

[thereshopeyet]

Suzi

Freight Train.... Elizabeth Cotton.... Gosh she's amazing !!

Do I have to learn it with the guitar upside down?
:ohmy:

[neverfoundthetime]

Bloody well done so far Dermot I can see and hear lots of herd work going into this song. The comments so far will help you for sure, I can only say that if you work on the flow and continuity of it, you will get it to where you want it to be and that is going to be so rewarding for your when the timing is clicking and the flow is carrying you along. Great to see you advance this song so far already!

[thereshopeyet]

Chris

Thanks for taking a look and encouragement.
I am enjoying learning it. It will be hard soting out the practiced mistakes but am taking on board
the advice to go over it measure for measure slowly so I don't miss notes and sort out the timing.

Thanks

Dermot