Beatles Here Comes The Sun by tacticaltal

dtaylor
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Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:40 am

In this song, because your thumb covers the bass notes on the 4th and 3rd string on the D, your ring finger comes out of the equation. Neil calls this the 'shifted' position.

There are other songs where you find yourself using the thumb on the 2nd string (Windy and Warm), but this is quite strict Travis picking and a great one to drive the patterns for your thumb into your brain.

Dean


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Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:40 am

WHAT I know a bout fingerpickin is the thumb for the three bass notes and the three fingers for the top three strings(melody strings) but in HCTS there often notes on the same string ,,there you can alternate your pickinfingers,,but Neil tells that too in the lesson if I remember well..

Willem


Edit: what Dean said for the D chord I know as well and there you must shift the thumb and fingers.. So there you use your thumb on the D and G string..


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Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:32 am

dtaylor wrote:
In this song, because your thumb covers the bass notes on the 4th and 3rd string on the D, your ring finger comes out of the equation. Neil calls this the 'shifted' position.

There are other songs where you find yourself using the thumb on the 2nd string (Windy and Warm), but this is quite strict Travis picking and a great one to drive the patterns for your thumb into your brain.

Dean
Dean, I've gotta question this. According to what I see on the tab (http://www.totallyguitars.com/target-so ... sun-lesson), the 3rd string isn't played by the thumb. The 4th, 5th and 6th strings are.

Check the tab and let me know if I'm missing something?

Terry


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Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:44 am

tacticaltal wrote:
dtaylor wrote:
In this song, because your thumb covers the bass notes on the 4th and 3rd string on the D, your ring finger comes out of the equation. Neil calls this the 'shifted' position.

There are other songs where you find yourself using the thumb on the 2nd string (Windy and Warm), but this is quite strict Travis picking and a great one to drive the patterns for your thumb into your brain.

Dean
Dean, I've gotta question this. According to what I see on the tab (http://www.totallyguitars.com/target-so ... sun-lesson), the 3rd string isn't played by the thumb. The 4th, 5th and 6th strings are.

Check the tab and let me know if I'm missing something?

Terry

Terry I know I am not Dean BUT thats the wrong tab,, you must go to the target lessons and go to the lessons under our teachers name Neil HOGAN,,There you find the fingepick lesson and the right tab,,Maybe I put up a link,,


EDIT: Here's the link.. http://www.totallyguitars.com/target-so ... ntal-.html


tacticaltal
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Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:52 am

willem wrote:
tacticaltal wrote:
dtaylor wrote:
In this song, because your thumb covers the bass notes on the 4th and 3rd string on the D, your ring finger comes out of the equation. Neil calls this the 'shifted' position.

There are other songs where you find yourself using the thumb on the 2nd string (Windy and Warm), but this is quite strict Travis picking and a great one to drive the patterns for your thumb into your brain.

Dean
Dean, I've gotta question this. According to what I see on the tab (http://www.totallyguitars.com/target-so ... sun-lesson), the 3rd string isn't played by the thumb. The 4th, 5th and 6th strings are.

Check the tab and let me know if I'm missing something?

Terry

Terry I know I am not Dean BUT thats the wrong tab,, you must go to the target lessons and go to the lessons under our teachers name Neil HOGAN,,There you find the fingepick lesson and the right tab,,Maybe I put up a link,,


EDIT: Here's the link.. http://www.totallyguitars.com/target-so ... ntal-.html
Willem, I got that tab under what Neil calls his lesson for Here Comes The Sun. I'm confused now. :unsure:


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Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:03 pm

tacticaltal wrote:
willem wrote:
tacticaltal wrote:
dtaylor wrote:


Dean, I've gotta question this. According to what I see on the tab (http://www.totallyguitars.com/target-so ... sun-lesson), the 3rd string isn't played by the thumb. The 4th, 5th and 6th strings are.

Check the tab and let me know if I'm missing something?

Terry

Terry I know I am not Dean BUT thats the wrong tab,, you must go to the target lessons and go to the lessons under our teachers name Neil HOGAN,,There you find the fingepick lesson and the right tab,,Maybe I put up a link,,


EDIT: Here's the link.. http://www.totallyguitars.com/target-so ... ntal-.html
Willem, I got that tab under what Neil calls his lesson for Here Comes The Sun. I'm confused now. :unsure:
Yes,,we have two lessons one by the beatles and one by Neil,,he plays this on his cd,,the lesson by the beatles is the strumming lesson,, the lesson played by Neil and!! thought by Neil(hogan) is the fingerpicked instrumental,,hope this way I cleared it up...Neils play's this and is his own arrangement..

WILLEM


dtaylor
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Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:16 pm

I see where i may have confused the issue.
In your original post where you were picking it, i took that to mean you were playing Neil's Travis picking arrangement, but you were really playing the original version which is meant for strumming obviously.

I wouldn't try to persevere with picking the strumming version though. If you want to get the Travis picking version follow Willem's link.


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Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:40 am

Yeah, I see now the confusion. The instrumental version is quite different. Thanks, Willem and Dean. Hopefully, I'll be nailing this one pretty soon.


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Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:49 am

Best advice I was given was to practice as slowly as it takes to get it right , and if needs be just a bar or two at a time (the ones that are proving most difficult). Otherwise you can end up practising mistakes.


MarkM
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Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:54 am

Terry,

Looking good so far. I can't add much on this song as I usually do the strumming/flat picking version on this one. You'll get there. Just keep up the practicing and remember to put this song down every once in a while. Do some other stuff and come back to this in a few days. Its pretty remarkable what a few days off from a song can do for you. Looking forward to seeing the progress.




MarkM


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