A &$^#@*$%$@%$#^%^!!^&# poll

cosmicmechanic
Posts: 0
Joined: Sat Apr 04, 2009 8:39 am
Status: Offline

Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:54 am

Michele, as you know, the word "fuck" and it's derivatives are commonly used as ordinary adjectives today in all but the most mainstream media.

As to music and TG in particular, I guess most kids who would view this site are also familiar with "mofo", "bitch", and I will spare you the rest.

So it's really unfortunate that we have come to this. These words used to have a certain meaning and weight.

And also, there is the risk that I might be eternally damned :), oh rather, eternally darned, if I suggested that all this should be acceptable as common usage.

To answer your question: these kind of lyrics in rap seem violent to me, in their original meaning. So I would not go there.

But in older music, I feel that I understand them more in context ... so maybe it's just generational.

Anyway, most rap or hip-hop drives me up the wall, especially because of those fucking lyrics.

Pierre


michelew
Posts: 90
Joined: Sat Aug 22, 2009 5:43 pm
Location: Sydney, Australia
Status: Offline

Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:56 am

Great cover Wiley. But,...not the song.


michelew
Posts: 90
Joined: Sat Aug 22, 2009 5:43 pm
Location: Sydney, Australia
Status: Offline

Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:05 am

coomba wrote:
G'day Michele

In my game (steal industry) swearing is second nature and I would make a Russian submariner blush from time to time, But as a rule I never swear in hearing distance of anyone in public. Never in front of women or kids and absolutely never in front of my Mum. To me its a matter of respect for others. If I meet someone new and they swear then I guess I find it ok to do the same but again there are certain words that I still would never say. I'm a born and bred Westy biker , (Michelle will know what I mean) and So I'm defiantly no prude but I would hope TG will always be rated PG as I am always trying to encourage some young kids I know to join us here and it would be a shame if things changed here.
One of the best things about TG is its a safe place to be for all regardless of race, religion, age, gender etc. I hope it stays that way.
If you do decide to drop the F bomb then that's your call and it would not offend me , but TG will be a different place.

As for swearing and lyric I can take it or leave it, is it necessary I don't know, plenty of great songs out there seam to be able to express themselves with out swearing, but again it depends on the subject matter and the intended audience, is it intended to shock, offend or express emotions.

I feel the same about comedians I laugh at Kevin bloody Wilson (defiantly AO) but is he funnier that Bill Cosby? Its a matter of taste , but I know which one I would let the kids listen too.

Just my thoughts.

Cheers Scott

PS with regards to Neils question I have no idea.

Scott, I spent my early working life around miners and smelter (e.g. Kalgoorlie) and chemical plant workers who were rough diamonds and swore their heads off often. They did change their behaviour around me to be sure, but were still largely rough boys. And yep I definitely get the Westy biker. I completely agree with you about respect and I would hate to need to think twice before recommending TG to people, including young people.


michelew
Posts: 90
Joined: Sat Aug 22, 2009 5:43 pm
Location: Sydney, Australia
Status: Offline

Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:30 am

cosmicmechanic wrote:
Michele, as you know, the word "fuck" and it's derivatives are commonly used as ordinary adjectives today in all but the most mainstream media.

As to music and TG in particular, I guess most kids who would view this site are also familiar with "mofo", "bitch", and I will spare you the rest.

So it's really unfortunate that we have come to this. These words used to have a certain meaning and weight.

And also, there is the risk that I might be eternally damned :), oh rather, eternally darned, if I suggested that all this should be acceptable as common usage.

To answer your question: these kind of lyrics in rap seem violent to me, in their original meaning. So I would not go there.

But in older music, I feel that I understand them more in context ... so maybe it's just generational.

Anyway, most rap or hip-hop drives me up the wall, especially because of those fucking lyrics.

Pierre
Pierre, You crack me up! ;) You're one of a kind. Yes, I guess I wonder whether I'm just over thinking it. I definitely can be too PC at times. ... WTF indeed.

:)

thanks for the counter argument.

Shel


User avatar
neverfoundthetime
Posts: 48
Joined: Sat Aug 01, 2009 2:14 pm
Status: Offline

Sat Feb 11, 2012 2:50 am

Unexpected question Shel. I can't ever remember singing a song with an F in it, not that I have a problem with swearing which is one of the best possible ways to express excess emotion ;-). I think I read somewhere that swearing reduces pain. If called for I' going to use any bomb necessary.... and I'm not worried about the kids too much, I work with kids and you should hear the language!! Although, around U11s, its not on IMHO.


michelew
Posts: 90
Joined: Sat Aug 22, 2009 5:43 pm
Location: Sydney, Australia
Status: Offline

Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:00 am

Well of course Chirs for you I swear like a trooper. But as I said... Audience. :)


AndyT
Posts: 0
Joined: Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:06 am
Status: Offline

Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:17 am

Michelle,

You looking at a James Blunt song?


michelew
Posts: 90
Joined: Sat Aug 22, 2009 5:43 pm
Location: Sydney, Australia
Status: Offline

Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:32 am

Well I'm not saying in case I give away too many clues and let the cat out of the bag.

But, James does have examples to be sure.

Do you sing any of his songs Andy?


willem
Posts: 5
Joined: Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:53 am
Status: Offline

Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:15 am

I can't wait till you do this and then I look also to your expression to see if you mean it....

W.

EDIT: Not everyone would sing that word...


sws626
Posts: 0
Joined: Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:00 am
Status: Offline

Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:27 am

I would sing the song as written, unless it was in front of my 4-year-old daughter, who repeats everything she hears me sing. The other day I discovered she'd learned to sing the Velvet Underground's Femme Fatale. No naughty words there, but not exactly the message you want to hear from a little girl.
-Stuart


Post Reply Previous topicNext topic