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sbutler
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Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:07 am

If I hadn't read each one of these threads all the way through, I'd really be confused. Watching porn gives one GAS.

NO IT DOESN'T.

Wait, how would I know? :P

Actually, I've always been a nut over exotic woods. The more figure, the better. KOA, Rosewood, even Walnut. Probably the very worst reason to buy a guitar, unless as Tony put it " playing a really nice instrument makes you enjoy your playing more".

If it feels good, play it! :) If it gives you GAS, step outside for a while, come back and play some more. ;)


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Mon Oct 22, 2012 1:39 am

Scott,

You crack me up! B) :laugh: it's a good thing I said I didn't have GAS.

I agree whole-heartedly with you about exotic woods. They look divine, really beautiful. Cocobolo in particular always appeals to me, but any of the darker woods with strong markings always catch my eye. From what I understand they are suppose to promise even wider ranges of sound too, once fully opened up. Whether my ears can hear them is of course another story. But regardless, they are gorgeous.

Perhaps I should have said most guitar players have some level of GAS at some stage. Of course, that doesn't mean that you want a high end guitar just that one or even two guitars is rarely enough. :).

So Ness what IS your count now? :P ... Yes, I know you've accumulated them over 30-odd years. i wonder how many years per guitar is that? :P perhaps that is the truer measure. And you SURE can play them. Just teasing sweet woman, on your skills alone you can justify owning a squillion beautiful guitars :) :kiss: :silly:

Tony if you do have GAS I'm sure your stat (as opposed to strat) would be WAY interesting. But, just think of all the money you've saved by purchasing your Koa Taylor and how many steel string acoustics you could have had by now if you hadn't. Phew! :)

Well it seems that few TGers are doing any beautiful guitar ogling. It must just be me... Or you're just not fessing up! B) I guess the rest of you are just getting on with playing your own fine instruments, because it feels good. :)

Well that's enough GAS-bagging. :)

Shel


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Mon Oct 22, 2012 3:59 pm

Didn't have GAS until I read this thead (*$)#(&)@(#@)..............


Just kidding. I'm quite fortunate at the moment that I don't have any serious GAS. There will always be some level of GAS. I've been toying with trading in my DN8 for a Martin HD-28MP (adding some extra $$ as well). Do I need it?? Nope. Not one bit. Do I want it???? Hmmmmmm Well that is a silly question. I'm also really interested in an American Vintage '52 Telecaster (Its a new retro model). Just love the sound of a great Tele. Wish I had the skill though.


Wow now you've got me thinking again Michelle...........Argh...................................




MarkM


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Mon Oct 22, 2012 4:08 pm

I'm having fun.
For me that's what matters.

:laugh: :laugh:

Below Is A Picture Of My Ideal Guitar
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GAS eh?


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Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:07 pm

MarkM wrote:
Didn't have GAS until I read this thead (*$)#(&)@(#@)..............


Just kidding. I'm quite fortunate at the moment that I don't have any serious GAS. There will always be some level of GAS. I've been toying with trading in my DN8 for a Martin HD-28MP (adding some extra $$ as well). Do I need it?? Nope. Not one bit. Do I want it???? Hmmmmmm Well that is a silly question. I'm also really interested in an American Vintage '52 Telecaster (Its a new retro model). Just love the sound of a great Tele. Wish I had the skill though.


Wow now you've got me thinking again Michelle...........Argh...................................




MarkM

My sincere apologies Mark. I know how....consuming ...distracting....expensive potentially ... GAS can be. It's definitely better not to look so you're NOT tempted. B) i guess it's rarely a case of neeeeeeed. It's generally one of life is too short and i work too hard and it's only money. Will it bring you more joy and make your playing experience better? ... Only you know the answers. :) Keep us posted on what you decide to do.


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Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:12 pm

thereshopeyet wrote:
The guitar I have has keeps me busy.
I've had it tweaked a few times in a guitar store and curiosity gots the better of me so I untweaked it a few times :ohmy:

I'm sure a quality guitar would be like the diference between a Rolls Royce and a Fiat 500.
Many folk that have a Rolls Royce don't drive it.
Many guitars hang on walls.

I am blestwith the guitar I have..... I'm lucky to have one.
Those that have to listen to me are .... well ....are cursed! :S

I'm having fun.
For me that's what matters.

:laugh: :laugh:

Below Is A Picture Of My Ideal Guitar
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GAS eh?
Dermot you're a lucky man. :).

Does Neil know you're taking measurement of his moustache so you can model a fancy guitar on it? You might want to get his OK on the design, he'll be interested in the acoustics for sure. Perhaps you could commission Wrench to make sure the sound quality it truly worthy to bear the Master's name.

Otherwise....well you could get yourself into a hairy predicament. :P


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Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:52 pm

:laugh: :laugh:


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Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:24 pm

I think if I had the money I'd get Gerald Sheppard to make me a guitar, I've heard a couple of his Ave Maria and the tone as beautiful, however I tend to like certain Martin and Gibson because so many great tunes were played on them and although all guitars can be a little uniique there is a familiarity when you play certain tunes on a Martin or a Gibson. The Stones played a number of their earlier classics on Hummingbirds and J200's, the Beatles played a lot of their early acoustic stuff on a J160E and I seem to recall John playing a B25 twelve string. So many artists have played Martin D28's or their more expensive D45's CSNY all had D45's and Eric of course played the 000-42, but there's been so many it would take forever to name and it's nice to play certain tunes on certain guitars

I've got a D28 Martin and a J100 xtra Gibson and even for a guitar playing dummy like me there's a more Stones like feel when I play their stuff on the Gibson, other stuff sounds closer on the Martin.

Of course if I was a better player it would probably sound better on any other guitar but it maybe wouldn't sound quite as similar as the originals because you get to subconsciously expect a certain sound even if it's not played as well

So whilst I might love to have a handmade Sheppard or Goodall I tend to think more of J45's, Dove's and Hummingbirds when I dream


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Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:24 pm

Hi Wrench!


So do you think there's hope for that Mitchell (Guitar Center house brand, I think) dreadnought guitar I bought used, (but never played) for $50.00 when my daughter started asking "Mom, I don't get it . . .how do you do this?" The pain lasted well beyond the month of callous building, and when she gave up on playing, that's when I started using her Seagull. The action on the Mitchell is too high, but I didn't want to throw good money after bad to try to do something about it. So it's been in the closet for months now. I've thought it would be nice to have a spare guitar, now you've got me wondering. Opinions anyone?

Jean


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Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:37 pm

fjeanmur wrote:
Hi Wrench!


So do you think there's hope for that Mitchell (Guitar Center house brand, I think) dreadnought guitar I bought used, (but never played) for $50.00 when my daughter started asking "Mom, I don't get it . . .how do you do this?" The pain lasted well beyond the month of callous building, and when she gave up on playing, that's when I started using her Seagull. The action on the Mitchell is too high, but I didn't want to throw good money after bad to try to do something about it. So it's been in the closet for months now. I've thought it would be nice to have a spare guitar, now you've got me wondering. Opinions anyone?

Jean
I'll let you know in a week or so, Jean. I bought one of these today to experiment with. It has a good neck angle and a good neck joint. Everything else I can fix. The nut and saddle are made of crappy material, but they are actually fit petty well. The saddle slot is machined as well as any I have ever seen. The nut seat is pretty good, too. The intonation is decent. The frets are awful - really awful. So my playability plan is fret level and crown, and a setup. My sound plan is to analyze the sound, make a bone nut and saddle, then trim the natural frequencies of the top, back, and main air. I tune the top and back by altering the mass (by either adding mass or shaving the braces) to obtain the nearest natural frequencies that are prime numbers. I know this guitar has a decent neck angle because of the action height and saddle exposure. The neck joint is probably good because this thing has extraordinary harmonics right out of the box. If it doesn't work out, I should get at least 30 minutes of heat out of it this coming winter. It's either going to be a campfire guitar or campfire fuel!

I've seen a few of these things at GC that were OK, and some that were laughable. I picked this one up at a nearby independent store at a very low price. After reading your post, I couldn't resist. There was another one in the store that was very playable, so there might be hope for your dread. Since you only have $50 in it, be brave, and go get your toolbox!

To tell if the guitar has a good enough neck angle to even try fixing it, check these two things. First, measure the distance between the bottom of the low E string and the guitar top. If you don't have at least 1/2", don't bother with it, since the action is already too high. The other neck angle check is to lay a 24" straightedge down the center of the neck to the bridge. If the straightedge is below the surface of the bridge and you have less than 1/8" of saddle exposure, the guitar probably doesn't have enough neck angle to make it worth saving. If you do meet these criteria though, you should be able to make it playable.


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