capo and keys

willem
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Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:12 am

tgvanessa wrote:
Quiz :) :

I was playing in Drop A the other day, strings tuned as: AEADF#B, I was capoed at the second fret playing in the key of G, so what was the absolute key/pitch? What should I tell my pianoplayer???! :P
WE can win or lose,,,but win is better.tell the pianoman to play in D?? NOT RIGHT I KNOW..

WHEN I grip a G chord(6 strings) then i get the absolute notes (D)G#BEG#E..what chord is that,,,Jason Marz knows I forgot!!!lol x20003

ITS E!!!! TELL the painoman its E...

WilleM


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Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:19 am

tgvanessa wrote:
Quiz :) :

I was playing in Drop A the other day, strings tuned as: AEADF#B, I was capoed at the second fret playing in the key of G, so what was the absolute key/pitch? What should I tell my pianoplayer???! :P
It seems to me that you have tuned your guitar down 5 half steps (and the thickest string down 7 half steps).
Putting the capo on the 2nd fret, makes it as if you have tuned your guitar down 3 half steps (ignoring the thickest string).
Now if your play a G chord on your guitar it will sound 3 half steps lower than standard tuning.
So your G chord will sound like an E chord (G -> F# -> F -> E).

So I say tell the player to play in the key of E.

After it's recorded, if I'm wrong, it can always get corrected in the DAW! ;)


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Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:36 am

OK I can picture it now.

TGVanessa is sitting at her computer giggling her head off (with a BIG smirk on her face as a minimum) because she knows she's gotten at least two of us if not more. I imagine she'll wait until there are a few more responses. Just how many different keys can she collect before she puts us out of our misery and spills the beans on the correct answer?

Ratbag!

B)


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Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:46 am

michelew wrote:
OK I can picture it now.

TGVanessa is sitting at her computer giggling her head off (with a BIG smirk on her face as a minimum) because she knows she's gotten at least two of us if not more. I imagine she'll wait until there are a few more responses. Just how many different keys can she collect before she puts us out of our misery and spills the beans on the correct answer?

Ratbag!

B)
I edit my post,,get a wake shelllllllllllyyyy


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Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:56 am

michelew wrote:
OK - this feels like a trick question and at the risk of feeling like an idiot if I get it wrong...

It doesn't matter what you're turned to, if you're playing in the key of G but you're capoed at the second fret then your pianist should play in A
I think you're almost right Michele. Given that Vanessa said "I'm playing in the key of G" then the piano player should also play in the key of G.

But, I think what Vanessa was really saying was "I'm playing in the key of G RELATIVE TO THE CAPO"......


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Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:02 am

daryl wrote:
michelew wrote:
OK - this feels like a trick question and at the risk of feeling like an idiot if I get it wrong...

It doesn't matter what you're turned to, if you're playing in the key of G but you're capoed at the second fret then your pianist should play in A
I think you're almost right Michele. Given that Vanessa said "I'm playing in the key of G" then the piano player should also play in the key of G.

But, I think what Vanessa was really saying was "I'm playing in the key of G RELATIVE TO THE CAPO"......
Yes Daryl, that's absolutely how I took it since we guitar players generally talk about the key we're playing in relative to the capo. If she was playing in the key of G in absolute terms then the piano player would of course also need to play in the key of G.


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Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:51 am

:cheer: :cheer: :cheer: Thanks for playing guys and gal! :) :)

And yeah, we got a winner, DARYL!!! :woohoo: Yes Willem, you got it too! I could 'hear' you shout it, haha! :laugh:

Indeed, if I was just in standard tuning, capo II, playing in the key of G, my pianist or bassplayer should play in the key of A.

Bút I was in Drop A. Well I don't have to elaborate on it, Daryl already did! ;)

And Shel, in what key are you playing 'I'm coming over', on bass I mean??? :P

However, when explaining it to another guitarplayer, i indeed would talk about the key of G. Whenever you put a capo on the guitar, everything is relative to that, period. :)

A ratbag eh??! :laugh: :laugh: B)


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Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:06 am

Damn! I knew I should resist this one.

I play it in E of course!


OK add to the list of things I SUCK at, ... Alternate turnings.

Yes...ABSOLUTELY a ratbag. :) :) :) :P

I'll consider myself well and truly gotten. :)


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Wed Jun 26, 2013 1:31 pm

TGNeil Wrote:
The key you are actually in is the absolute key- the key the piano or bass player thinks in.
Thanks Neil

Dermot


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