Collaboration-related question

[willem]

nesh16041972 wrote:

That is true regarding to standard music-notation, not when it comes down to the actual pitch.

So if both instruments would read and play the C, I mean the one just below the stafflines, it indeed would be middle C on piano and the C on the 5th string 3th fret of the guitar, wich is in pitch an octave lower.

So as for tuning the guitar with a keyboard, you might wanna use E2, A2, D3, G3, B3, E4.

AndyT wrote:

Middle C on the piano is string 5 fret 3.

Thank you Vanessa,,,then the real pitch from middle C on Piano = second string first fret or third string fifth fret...and I forgot on my piano/keyboard is middle C / C3 OR C4?? I DON'T MAKE FUN IT IS SERIEUS..THANKS IN ADVANCE..

[AndyT]

As I understand it, piano is labeled on how far away the key is from middle C.
So, C2 is the second C right of (above) Middle C. So Middle C would be C0 (zero) or just plain C.

I should know this. I work with a piano teacher. LOL Now I'm not so sure...

[willem]

AndyT wrote:

As I understand it, piano is labeled on how far away the key is from middle C.
So, C2 is the second C right of (above) Middle C. So Middle C would be C0 (zero) or just plain C.

I should know this. I work with a piano teacher. LOL Now I'm not so sure...

This is confusing Andy,,I think this way,,when you have 88key on board then the first C= C1 and so on and I think to remember C4 = middle C.. (NOT SURE)

My keyboard starts on C2(I don''t have 88keys)...

[lueders]

Willem, middle C on any piano or keyboard is C4.

A standard piano, 88 keys, it has 7 (and a little more) octaves, the first one starting on C is C1 and so on. Middle C is where the 4th octave starts, hence C4. And your keyboard starts with C2 (wich is the 2nd octave on an actual piano) and ends up on C7, remember?

And yes, the same pitch on guitar would be as you mentioned, 2nd string 1st fret, or indeed 3rd string 5th fret, or 4th string 10th fret.....or, haha!

willem wrote:

nesh16041972 wrote:

That is true regarding to standard music-notation, not when it comes down to the actual pitch.

So if both instruments would read and play the C, I mean the one just below the stafflines, it indeed would be middle C on piano and the C on the 5th string 3th fret of the guitar, wich is in pitch an octave lower.

So as for tuning the guitar with a keyboard, you might wanna use E2, A2, D3, G3, B3, E4.

AndyT wrote:

Middle C on the piano is string 5 fret 3.

Thank you Vanessa,,,then the real pitch from middle C on Piano = second string first fret or third string fifth fret...and I forgot on my piano/keyboard is middle C / C3 OR C4?? I DON'T MAKE FUN IT IS SERIEUS..THANKS IN ADVANCE..

[AndyT]

HA! I was wrong. I knew it! Sorry Willem. I'll stay out of the piano discussions from now on. LOL
We both learned something.

It's amazing how something as simple as Middle C can mess you up.
I have a small Ebook written by a Piano teacher that translates piano keys to guitar. Maybe I should read it. LOL

[lueders]

Well personally I had no idea about the 440HZ and what actual note that is on a guitar of a piano, I just know that my guitartuner has to be on that pitch, that's about it, haha!

AndyT wrote:

HA! I was wrong. I knew it! Sorry Willem. I'll stay out of the piano discussions from now on. LOL
We both learned something.

[willem]

AndyT wrote:

HA! I was wrong. I knew it! Sorry Willem. I'll stay out of the piano discussions from now on. LOL
We both learned something.

I never thought I could learn you something....LOL

[AndyT]

Oh theres LOTS of things I need to learn! LOL
If you want a copy of the Ebook, PM me your email and I'll send it to you.

[willem]

nesh16041972 wrote:

Well personally I had no idea about the 440HZ and what actual note that is on a guitar of a piano, I just know that my guitartuner has to be on that pitch, that's about it, haha!

AndyT wrote:

HA! I was wrong. I knew it! Sorry Willem. I'll stay out of the piano discussions from now on. LOL
We both learned something.

Well I find very important to know real pitches,,maybe for practicing melody/vocal but now my keyboard is moved from the loft I think I use that for it and 'm also glad were my middle C is,,,all confusing are gone so I have more space in my head...lol

Thank you genius...

[lueders]

That's great Willem!

Alright, back to Billy Joel, 'Just the way you are' is mostly played in C3 and C4 (righthand)!

willem wrote:

nesh16041972 wrote:

Well personally I had no idea about the 440HZ and what actual note that is on a guitar of a piano, I just know that my guitartuner has to be on that pitch, that's about it, haha!

AndyT wrote:

HA! I was wrong. I knew it! Sorry Willem. I'll stay out of the piano discussions from now on. LOL
We both learned something.

Well I find very important to know real pitches,,maybe for practicing melody/vocal but now my keyboard is moved from the loft I think I use that for it and 'm also glad were my middle C is,,,all confusing are gone so I have more space in my head...lol

Thank you genius...