Big Bad Bear - Who's Afraid

[BigBear]

haoli25 wrote:

Unlike skeet, I might actually be able to hit a
volleyball in the air.
It would also give me an excuse to buy a Benelli
Vinci! lol Tom Knapp sold me on those.

I LOVE Benellis!! I wish I could afford one. I'm a Browning over-under guy for upland and Remington 11-87 for waterfowl.

Tom Knapp is a phenominal shooter! Did you see the TV show where he shot a .22 thru a metal washer? For a shotgun guy that's not too bad. I was impressed!

[haoli25]

Since "THE CHANGE" in November, I have been
reconsidering my thoughts on re-loads.
One indoor range I used to go to often will
not allow re-loads and they also require
hollow points.
An outdoor range nearby allows re-loads, but
they also require hollow points.
For the last year or so I have been going out
to a good friend's house. It's out in the
middle of nowhere and we can shoot any ammo
we like out there, including the model 500.
We setup some target boards at 7, 15, 20, and
30 yards for pistols and 100, 200, 300, 400
yards for rifles.

Sometimes I wish I had found less expensive
hobbies than guitars and target shooting!

[BigBear]

haoli25 wrote:

Sometimes I wish I had found less expensive
hobbies than guitars and target shooting!

LOL! Ain't that the truth!

I've never seen the hollow-point requirement. I hope that doesn't catch on out here! I shoot TMJ's almost exclusively. HP's are too expensive.

[haoli25]

Hollow points are very expensive! I am told that
many ranges have started adding hollow point
requirements due to insurance regulations. The
insurance compamies feel there is less chance of
a ricochet with hollow points.
Unless they change their policies, I'm going to
stay in the great outdoors!!! lol

Yep, I saw Tom Knapp shoot through the center of
the metal washer and shoot the aspirin too. What
a showoff! I'm only a little bit jealous. lol

[KennyF]

haoli25 wrote:

Nice collection KENNYF! Do you get to go to
the range often?

A few times a month. Sometimes more, sometimes less, depending on how nuts every day life gets.

[KennyF]

BigBear wrote:

kennyf wrote:

Ya know, not too much walks away from a shot from a .44 Mag., but man, they sure are fatiguing on the shooter.

That's true but I know a couple Alaskan guides and they all say even a .44Mag isn't enough against the big bears. By comparison a relatively hot factory loaded .44mag with a 240 gr. bullet generates about 970 ft-lbs of kinetic energy.

A factory loaded .500Mag load with a 350gr bullet can top out over 3,000 ft-lbs!! That means the bear gets hit with over 3 times the energy of a .44 at the only expense of a slightly heavy revolver (I'm not counting the cost of the ammo when you are confronted by an angry mama bear!)!

If I was hunting or hiking in Alaska I'd be packing a Model 500! This debate BTW has dominated several handgun forums since the introduction of the Model 500 in 2003.

I hear ya Rick. My neighbor has a 500 for sale, but I just can't justify it.

Here's one you probably haven't seen. That's a hand made 45-70 SA sittin' next to my .44 Mag. Super Blackhawk.

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Here's the 45-70, .44, .41, and the 357 convert.

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kennyf wrote:

...and a .357/9mm convertible. B)

A .357/9mm convertible? I've heard of .357 semi-autos but not a combo with a 9mm. I assume you have to change out the magazine and barrel...?

[BigBear]

kennyf wrote:

I hear ya Rick. My neighbor has a 500 for sale, but I just can't justify it.

Here's one you probably haven't seen. That's a hand made 45-70 SA sittin' next to my .44 Mag. Super Blackhawk.

Geez, check the frame out on that!! I've shot Super Blackhawks and they are no toy so the custom must be huge!!! Now that there is a real man's gun!! How is the 45-70 for concealed carry? LOL Again!

What does a used Model 500 sell for? I've never priced one, new or used?

[KennyF]

gingold wrote:

kennyf wrote:

...and a .357/9mm convertible. B)

A .357/9mm convertible? I've heard of .357 semi-autos but not a combo with a 9mm. I assume you have to change out the magazine and barrel...?

The .357 is actually the same bullet diameter as a .38 (9.1MM), and close in size to the 9MM, which is actually 9MM. Only the cartridges are different. You can fire .38's from a .357 pistol, but you can't fire .357's from a .38 pistol. In order to fire 9mm's in that pistol, you only need to change the cylinder, which literally takes about 30 seconds.

[KennyF]

BigBear wrote:

Geez, check the frame out on that!! I've shot Super Blackhawks and they are no toy so the custom must be huge!!! Now that there is a real man's gun!! How is the 45-70 for concealed carry? LOL Again!

What does a used Model 500 sell for? I've never priced one, new or used?

Yeah man, that thing is a monster. :laugh:

This guy wants $900.00 for it with two holsters. It's only 3 months old and has less than a hundred rounds through it. I don't know... For $650.00 I might have grabbed it, but not for $900.00. They're only $1100.00 new.