hi everyone
haven't heard from me for awhile but that doesn't mean i have given up - actually never missed a day of practicing since around june of last year
mainly have stuck with all the scales and the fretboard not songs just jet - theory and the neck
today i am stumped
the F minor blues pentatonic scale : remember the notes are taken from the A flat major scale and the numbers used would be
1 3 4 5 7 to get the F minor notes and then add a flatted 5th note to get the blues pentatonic
here is the rub : name the 1 3 4 flat5 5 7 notes
all I can come up with is G flat flat, A flat, B flat, C flat, D flat flat, E flat
Is this correct?
name those notes
I cannot answer your question, but I look forward to the day that I actually understand the question. As it is now, I barely recognize what your are asking, not because it was poorly asked, but because my theory knowledge remains so pathetic. I suspect Neil or someone else can answer your question.
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thanks - can't wait to get the input
you see the problem is - is that you can only use one letter of the alphabet in the scale once
ie you can't have a B and a B flat in the same scale
the F minor scale has notes numbered 1-7 and they are F, G, A flat, B flat, C D flat, E flat
now to make it a pentatonic scale that is minor ie Fmin Pentatonic you only use the 1, 3, 4, 5 and 7 note.
now you have F, A flat, B flat, C and E flat
to make it a blues pentatonic scale you have to add one note, you add a flatted 5th
but a flatted 5th would be C flat and we already have a C in the scale and you can't sharpen any of the notes because they come from the A flat scale and that scale has four flats and no sharps
you see the problem is - is that you can only use one letter of the alphabet in the scale once
ie you can't have a B and a B flat in the same scale
the F minor scale has notes numbered 1-7 and they are F, G, A flat, B flat, C D flat, E flat
now to make it a pentatonic scale that is minor ie Fmin Pentatonic you only use the 1, 3, 4, 5 and 7 note.
now you have F, A flat, B flat, C and E flat
to make it a blues pentatonic scale you have to add one note, you add a flatted 5th
but a flatted 5th would be C flat and we already have a C in the scale and you can't sharpen any of the notes because they come from the A flat scale and that scale has four flats and no sharps
John
I'm afraid theory isn't a strong point of mine but I'd say that if it's an F minor pentatonic scale, then the first note - 1 - should be F and not G flat flat.
This would make the remaining notes Ab Bb C Eb
I am happy to be corrected though
Stuart
I'm afraid theory isn't a strong point of mine but I'd say that if it's an F minor pentatonic scale, then the first note - 1 - should be F and not G flat flat.
This would make the remaining notes Ab Bb C Eb
I am happy to be corrected though
Stuart
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but i want the notes in an F minor blues pentatonic scale where the flatted 5th needs to be added
Then I'd try F G# A# B C Eb - although it appears that your pentatonic scale now has six notes!
I thought that the intervals for the blues scale were 1 3b 4 5b 5 7b - but I'm not sure. Scales aren't really my thing but I do enjoy a puzzle!
I thought that the intervals for the blues scale were 1 3b 4 5b 5 7b - but I'm not sure. Scales aren't really my thing but I do enjoy a puzzle!
Hi Gang,
A somewhat simple answer- as soon as you call something 'Blues', conventional naming rules are thrown out with traditional harmonic analysis as well. The introduction of consecutive half steps (4, #4 or b5, 5) means it is fine to have Bb, B, and C as part of the F Blues Scale.
Same thing is true in a diminished scale, which alternate whole steps with half steps making a total of 8 different notes, or even a chromatic scale, which includes all 12 tones of our musical universe.
Neil
A somewhat simple answer- as soon as you call something 'Blues', conventional naming rules are thrown out with traditional harmonic analysis as well. The introduction of consecutive half steps (4, #4 or b5, 5) means it is fine to have Bb, B, and C as part of the F Blues Scale.
Same thing is true in a diminished scale, which alternate whole steps with half steps making a total of 8 different notes, or even a chromatic scale, which includes all 12 tones of our musical universe.
Neil
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jayswett wrote:
I'm with Jay. I think I'll just put my dunce's hat on and sit in the corner.....I cannot answer your question, but I look forward to the day that I actually understand the question. As it is now, I barely recognize what your are asking, not because it was poorly asked, but because my theory knowledge remains so pathetic. I suspect Neil or someone else can answer your question.