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Chasplaya
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Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:55 am

BigBear wrote:
Chasplaya wrote:
AndyT wrote:
Some basic beginner blues to start please.
And use the American version of English release 1.1
When it comes to the blues, there is no "programme" or "colour"! The King's English isn't spoken here!!

It's just the blues baby!!! :lol:
Yup its out of Africa!!


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Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:11 am

AndyT wrote:
Some basic beginner blues to start please.
Hello Andy, i think when it comes and IT COMES,i'm sure, it must be started at the basics,i listen my whole life at the bleus but when i tryed to played it!! its not so good,its the shuffle i think,,,,groetjes...


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Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:37 am

Willem, Yes, I think you are right.
Neil zal ik geef ons vertrouwen op wat nodig is om blauwstijl te leren.


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Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:35 pm

willem wrote:
AndyT wrote:
Some basic beginner blues to start please.
Hello Andy, i think when it comes and IT COMES,i'm sure, it must be started at the basics,i listen my whole life at the bleus but when i tryed to played it!! its not so good,its the shuffle i think,,,,groetjes...
I think to play the Blues you have to really have it in your soul, you have to have been there through the tough and grim times or had a tough life. Clapton for a White guy has been there if you've read his Bio thats why he can pull it off. You have to have gone to the Crossroads and come back... So its not about being an American or a Black its about Soul...


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Sat Aug 15, 2009 3:04 am

Chas,
I agree and disagree with you.

For many years, blues players have been judged by how much 'soul' they have. But I have to disagree with that as a means to measure. As a Minister, I am very familiar with the concept and realities of a 'soul' and it simply does not fit the bill for the blues. We have to look a different direction for the real measuring stick. Its the ability to express anguish.

Everyone has a soul, but not everyone can express the pain and suffering we all go through. It takes a very empathic storyteller to get that across in a way that can touch you. The same is especially true of music. Music is a form of emotion and can and should be used to express the different circumstances we travel through on a daily basis. Many people can play a musical piece perfectly in time with no missed notes, but how alive is it? Then some can play it and make mistakes but it comes alive and conveys feelings to you that someone else had.

Some will say that this comes from the soul, but again I disagree. This is empathy, pure and simple.

Does it really matter what its called? Well, in the long run, probably not, but its something to be aware of anyway.


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Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:43 pm

AndyT wrote:
Chas,
I agree and disagree with you.
Hi Andy I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one, my take on empathy is different to yours also, this is the definition I follow which I don't think sits with your thinking:

Empathy is the capability to share and understand another's emotions and feelings. It is often characterized as the ability to "put oneself into another's shoes," Empathy does not necessarily imply compassion, sympathy, or empathic concern because this capacity can be present in context of compassionate or cruel behavior.

Anyways its mostly all good music and its also where most music we all like on this site stems from


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Sun Aug 16, 2009 12:02 am

AndyT wrote:
Chas,
I agree and disagree with you.

For many years, blues players have been judged by how much 'soul' they have. But I have to disagree with that as a means to measure. As a Minister, I am very familiar with the concept and realities of a 'soul' and it simply does not fit the bill for the blues. We have to look a different direction for the real measuring stick. Its the ability to express anguish.

Everyone has a soul, but not everyone can express the pain and suffering we all go through. It takes a very empathic storyteller to get that across in a way that can touch you. The same is especially true of music. Music is a form of emotion and can and should be used to express the different circumstances we travel through on a daily basis. Many people can play a musical piece perfectly in time with no missed notes, but how alive is it? Then some can play it and make mistakes but it comes alive and conveys feelings to you that someone else had.

Some will say that this comes from the soul, but again I disagree. This is empathy, pure and simple.

Does it really matter what its called? Well, in the long run, probably not, but its something to be aware of anyway.

Andy- very interesting comments. I hadn't thought of it from that perspective. Coming from a theological point of view you probably define the human "soul" less broadly than the rest of us might. The blues, with its African American roots, is definately an expression of raw emothion.

In fact, the very name "blues" denotes sadness and melancholy. So can a happy person really play the blues with the same emotion as someone who "feels" the blues? I can't answer that but when someone who we would consider a master of the blues plays, you can feel the raw emotion. No other music form is so cloesly associated with the emotion it is intended to express.

Is this emotion from the soul? Empathy may be our reaction to this music that evokes a soulful playing. As you say, it may not matter what we call it, but we certainly know it when we feel it. And this is why the blues has been such a dominant influence in modern music! :cheer:


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Sun Aug 16, 2009 3:38 am

Bear,
From a strictly theological viewpoint, it would be coming from the spirit, not the soul.

The basic formula is,
I am a spirit,
I have a soul,
I live in a body.

That is the threefold nature of man.

So anything that deals with creative emotion comes from the spirit.


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Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:37 am

All I know is that I have recently been turned on to the blues. Even though I grew up with rock-n-roll I am amazed at how little I know about the blues.

So, with that being said, I would love to have some blues lessons added to the site. As for what type of blues lessons that is way beyond my understanding, but I would welcome anything Neil does.

Ric


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Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:31 pm

Have you guys seen these? They're from the free area...

12-Bar Blues - Scale Overview
12-Bar Blues - Rhythm Track


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