House of The Rising Sun

[thereshopeyet]

Thanks.

[willem]

thereshopeyet wrote:

Willem Wrote:

I study my playing and I thought I made the PIVOT also,,but I saw now that I lift my finger from the little barre and put it down again while playing the Am...

TG is watching ALL The Time Willem !

That's why you get the award !

:ohmy:

I think you gonna beat me,,, i GO on slow,,,and I would be happy to give you the mirror..I think its very easy for you beating me.. :laugh: :laugh: B)

[michelew]

Well I've been playing 'House of the rIsing Sun' this morning. I'm getting clean notes with the way I'm doing my mini barre on the little F, but one thing I didn't notice before is that my barre is at an angle and mostly on the side on my finger, like a full barre rather than a proper hinged barre. Maybe that's why I've managed to fluke the barre and fretting the C of the Am using the pivot (without lifting my finger). I'll work on the normal approach as I'm sure my hinge needs improvement. I may get away with doing it incorrectly on this song, but I'm sure doing it properly will help me with other more complex finger picking songs.

Details, dentils, it's all in the details as the super musos amongst us know. B) :cheer:

Back to playing.

M.

[thereshopeyet]

Hello Michelle

I have been practicing without the pivot as Neil advised.

I've also set my metronome to 60 bpm as although not very musical I find
it give me more time to think forward.

Thanks

Dermot

[michelew]

Dermot,

I have one last series of suggestions before I leave advice to those with the experience to know what they are talking about and the whys behind their suggestions.

By the way, I've been playing the F to Am shift the right way too and I can see the wisdom in it, finally....yes I'm an idiot sometimes. I was stuck on 'but my finger is already there, why do I need to move it. '

The review uploader is not just for complete songs. It's for anyone who wants advice on their playing from Neil especially. if it doesn't relate to a TG lesson then it has less of a chance of being reviewed, but it still may get one. So you could upload a video in the review section that shows something you are working and then if it also related to a tforum thread you've started you could put a link to that thread in the review post once it's been created (edit the initial post). You could also put an indication in the upload title that it related to a forum thread (maybe).

Regarding the cheese wires, have you ever tried a nylon string guitar? You can get hybrids now that have thinner necks than classicals, e.g. 1 3/4 inch models. It would be easier on your fingers and it still sounds great. I love the warmer sound. In the same vein, have you tried a ukulele? (No I don't get a commission on these cuties). The strings are easier on your fingers and they have a lower tension. You could play it just for fun and still be working on all of your guitar skills. In a sense it's a guitar starting at the fifth fret and without the two bass strings. If you don't like the idea of just having four string, get a six string model like mine.

Ok that's it from me.

Remember to have some fun too.

M

[thereshopeyet]

Hello Michelle

Your suggestion regarding nylon string instruments is a good one that never entered my mind.

Nylon strings would possibly be a good alternative to the steel string when the hands are needing some rest.
It would mean practice goes on rather than doing nothing for a day... pickup a nylon string guitar.

I've always wondered about the classical guitar in terms of it's wide fretboard.
I don't fully understand why they are wide if there are advantages to that feature?

I also didn't know you could get narrower fretboard on a classical.

Do you know the difference between a Classical and a Spanish Flamenco guitars?
I like the Spanish sound. When I tried the guitar first time round I was working through Fredrick Noad's Solo Book 1
but that was long forgotten by the time I arrived at TG.

I've always been under the impression you have to post a full song for review Michelle.
I don't see many uploads that aren't reasonably complete.
Although I am working on it.

I enjoy my guitar, it dissapoints me that I didn't appreciate it enough until half a century passed.

I am having fun for sure and never though I'd be able to play a note and have such a practical resource as TG.

Dermot

[michelew]

Dermot,

I imagine that some of the reason for the width of a traditional classical guitar is historical, but as I understand it, nylon stringed guitars also have a wider neck because the nylon strings vibrate in a wider arch (lower tension) and because they are mostly played by finger picking. The wider string spacing seems to be better for than. Guitarist who predominantly use fingerpicking seem to prefer wider width necks on their steel strings too (1 3/4 in instead of 1 1/2 for example).

Spanish vs flamenco - you'll need to wiki that. I know a cedar top is often used for Spanish which gives a darker sound, but I'm sure there are other design features which affect the sound. 12 frets to the body is the norm, which apparently gives the guitar better resonance. I'm sure there is a heap of info on the net if you want the official story. A lot (most?) of what you're hearing in Spanish guitar music is the style of the music itself, so as with all shopping expeditions for a musical instrument try a lot until you find the sound that talks to you. That seems to be the mantra.

The thinner neck on some modern nylon-stringed guitars is probably something that's evolved to meet the needs of steel string players who want the nylon sound without the extra stretch, but I'm guessing again.

Posting songs for review - It can be part of a song. I only put up part of a song to seek Neil's advice on how to improve my palm muting. He reviewed that. I think most people just prefer to post a song that is fairly well developed, where they've done the best they can by themselves. So in short it can be 30 seconds if that's what you need advice on.

Have fun with your exploration of nylon stringed instruments if you decide to go that way. That should keep you busy for a while.

M.

[tacticaltal]

thereshopeyet wrote:

I've always been under the impression you have to post a full song for review Michelle.
I don't see many uploads that aren't reasonably complete.
Although I am working on it.

Dermot, I've made a resolution to start practicing a bit more, and I just uploaded about 2minutes of me working on fingerpicking the intro to Here Comes The Sun. It's a start/stop/restart session where I'm showing Neil, and others, where I'm having trouble. Making several takes to get a perfect take, I don't believe, is as worthy, for instruction sake, as showing all the mistakes along the way.

Here's the link, if you're interested: http://www.totallyguitars.com/forum/86- ... tml#106532

Terry

So, in short, Damnit, Dermot, upload a video already :ohmy:

[tacticaltal]

I second that!

tacticaltal wrote:

thereshopeyet wrote:

I've always been under the impression you have to post a full song for review Michelle.
I don't see many uploads that aren't reasonably complete.
Although I am working on it.

Dermot, I've made a resolution to start practicing a bit more, and I just uploaded about 2minutes of me working on fingerpicking the intro to Here Comes The Sun. It's a start/stop/restart session where I'm showing Neil, and others, where I'm having trouble. Making several takes to get a perfect take, I don't believe, is as worthy, for instruction sake, as showing all the mistakes along the way.

Here's the link, if you're interested: http://www.totallyguitars.com/forum/86- ... tml#106532

Terry

So, in short, Damnit, Dermot, upload a video already :ohmy:

[thereshopeyet]

Michelle

Thanks for your observations and comments on guitars.
Interesting thoughts thanks.

Dermot