I feel that the biggest reason to know the natural scale from anywhere on the fretboard is the huge advantage you get from knowing the note locations on the guitar fretboard.
If it has no other use than that that is a huge bit of knowledge to have as it opens up the guitar fretboard for you. It allows you to easily find different chord voiceings and is great for figuring out solos.
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Natural Scale
rcsnydley wrote:
This discussion is where knowing a little keyboard is a big help as Neil alluded to.
Ric- don't you also have to know the intervals 2-2-1-2-2-2-1 to make it anywhere near useful? Because if you change the intervals to 2-1-2-2-1-2-2 we get the natural minor scale. To me, it seems the intervals are almost more imprtant than the scale?I feel that the biggest reason to know the natural scale from anywhere on the fretboard is the huge advantage you get from knowing the note locations on the guitar fretboard.
This discussion is where knowing a little keyboard is a big help as Neil alluded to.
Yes, Rick, you do need to know the major and/or minor patterns, i.e. w, w, h, w, w, w, h and w, h, w, w, h, w, w to get the right notes for the scale you are looking at.
If you start at any particular note and work up the natural scale using either of these patterns you will find all the notes in that "key". You can then figure out all the chords in that "key" using the notes from the natural scale.
Ok, so I think I have sufficiently muddied the waters here.
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If you start at any particular note and work up the natural scale using either of these patterns you will find all the notes in that "key". You can then figure out all the chords in that "key" using the notes from the natural scale.
Ok, so I think I have sufficiently muddied the waters here.
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AndyT wrote:
Maybe while sitting in the cool Trade Wind breezes munching on poi you've mastered all those but I still have more work to do. But if you had all those scales down cold you'd be dangerous with a guitar!!
I intend to be the first Ursus arctos horribilis aka Fur Boy to master them all!!
Just a thought but wouldn't it be more useful to learn the major and minor pentatonic scales in all 5 (or 6 according to Neil) positions? Then after the pentatonic scales learn the full scale and then the blues scales?AHHHH!!! I'm blind! Someone muddied the place all up!
I'll just work on this one and get it down backwards and forwards then I'll figure out what to do with it.
Maybe while sitting in the cool Trade Wind breezes munching on poi you've mastered all those but I still have more work to do. But if you had all those scales down cold you'd be dangerous with a guitar!!
I intend to be the first Ursus arctos horribilis aka Fur Boy to master them all!!
Ack! Ya tourist. you don't much Poi. Its like eating paste when you were in grade 1 or 2. Stick your fingers in and go for it. I tell my wife all the time its just paste with food coloring added. Dems fightin words for her.
Nice cool trade winds at 87 degrees today...
Nice cool trade winds at 87 degrees today...
BigBear wrote:
Yeah, I thought of that but since Neil teaches this one first, I guess I'll try and do it his way.Just a thought but wouldn't it be more useful to learn the major and minor pentatonic scales in all 5 (or 6 according to Neil) positions? Then after the pentatonic scales learn the full scale and then the blues scales?
BigBear wrote:
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There are only five pentatonic positions or boxes, one for each note in the penta (five) tonic (tones) scale. The two tones that are left out in the major pentatonic scale a degrees 4 and 7. If you number the boxes based on the scale degree rather than 1 - 5 then you will have boxes 1, 2, 3, 5, and 6. So, when Neil talks about position six he is talking about the position/box that starts with the sixth degree note. Also, since the sixth degree of a major key is the relative minor the box that is formed by the sixth degree major pentatonic position is the first position for the minor pentatonic scale.AndyT wrote:Just a thought but wouldn't it be more useful to learn the major and minor pentatonic scales in all 5 (or 6 according to Neil) positions? Then after the pentatonic scales learn the full scale and then the blues scales?AHHHH!!! I'm blind! Someone muddied the place all up!
I'll just work on this one and get it down backwards and forwards then I'll figure out what to do with it.
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Ric