Giuliani Exercises

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Wed Jan 09, 2013 4:56 pm

Thanks.


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Thu Jan 10, 2013 6:23 am

Yóu? Terrified to ask?? That'll néver happen!! :P ;)


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I think the note in standard notation has a double function. (but I hope Neil will answer that one)
The tab translates it wrong, since the note should be played ónce!


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Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:00 pm

I'm getting more and more curious! :)

You might be very right Wiley, hopefully Neil will enlighten us, just to make sure! (or at least me ánd Dermot! :P )

But indeed, I haven't found it in any of his transcribed excercises as well. :dry:

wiley wrote:
I would like to clarify, if possible.

A while back, before Hector's original post, I had found a site which supposedly had a copy of the Giuliani Exercises that had been transcribed in 1924 from his original (he passed away in 1829) writings.

So, relying on this, I can only say the 'double' note as in the lesson, is somehow a mistake, tab or not.


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Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:18 pm

Hi Gang,

Great question and comments going on here. This is a situation where there are multiple ways of doing things, some better than others in my opinion, as well as a flaw in the system.

The flaw is in the tab, there should not be two 3s on the 5th string. You are only going to play it once. I don't remember where Hector got this tab but it was apparently not done in GuitarPro.

As far as the standard notation goes, it is absolutely correct to write it the way it is, with two Cs. Each one represents a note in a different voice. The eighth note is in the top voice, part of the arpeggio pattern, and the half note is the bottom voice, pointing out that it should be held for 2 beats, until the next note in the bass voice.

I may not have anything exactly like this in most of my arrangements for a couple of reasons. I'm sure there are pieces that show a note with 2 stems, probably an eighth going up and a quarter going down. This also just represents a single note functioning in both voices. Another way of appearing more clear would be to put an eighth rest in the top voice, above the half note in the bass.

When writing out something in two, or even more voices, all voices have to account for all beats in the measure. This can look a bit confusing in the notation but more accurately shows how long every note should ring. Tab can not really do a good job of this but can seem more straightforward.

This is one reason everybody should at least be able to read the rhythmic part of standard notation and use it in conjunction with the tab.

Neil


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Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:24 pm

Wow Neil, thanks so much for your elaborated answer here, makes a lot of sense!!

Ness


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Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:07 pm

Neil

Thanks for the explanation.

Dermot


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