parallet thirds

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pigpenz
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Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:40 am

was working on a fill for peacefull easy filling using parallel thirds and went backed and watched the lesson on Brown Eyed Girl

GB
AC
BD

where the AC is a minor third instead of a major.

Normally if the key is G,wouldnt the C be C#.

So when doing a fill in parallel thirds when do you know when to add in the minor thirds
versus the major thirds.


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Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:53 pm

Each note of the third should be in the key, so some will be major and some will be minor. This will make them match up with the triads in the key. There is an exception to this in Brown Eyed Girl when the lead moves up to the C chord. Who can figure it out and explain to everybody?

Neil


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Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:40 pm

well it would seem there should be a F# for this key and the next third could be
DF#, but it its a minor third then it would be DF

or else it could be that its the G blues scale?


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Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:31 pm

Neil wrote:
Each note of the third should be in the key, so some will be major and some will be minor. This will make them match up with the triads in the key. There is an exception to this in Brown Eyed Girl when the lead moves up to the C chord. Who can figure it out and explain to everybody?

Neil
It seems to me that if indeed "Brown Eyed Girl" is in the key of G then the C chord is the IV chord. The notes in the key of G are G, A, B, C, D, E, F#, so in the key of G, C is natural not sharp. The intro thirds are done off of the G, C, G, D chord progression. When in the intro changes from the G chord to the C chord it uses thirds contained in the key of C not the key of G or C, D, E, F, G, A, B. Furthermore, when it goes to the D chord it plays a D triad located at the 5th and 7th frets instead of thirds.

Have I sufficiently muddied the waters?

Ric


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Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:57 pm

no, in my original post when playing with the thirds I was thinking of peaceful easy filling which i think is in the key of D, which would have c# and f#, but when watching the video again on brown eyed girl Neil was talking about the parallel thirds
the first one being a major third and the next two being minor thirds.

when playing the riff-Peaceful Easy Feeling
xxx43x
xxx65x
xxx77x
xxx77x
xxx77x
xxx65x
xxx43x
xxx00x
xxx43x
xxx55x
xxx65x

for some reason the
xxx55x
xxx65x
sounds good to me

and I dont even know if this is really part of the song but it seems to be an OK fill for my ear


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Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:12 pm

rcsnydley wrote:
Neil wrote:
Each note of the third should be in the key, so some will be major and some will be minor. This will make them match up with the triads in the key. There is an exception to this in Brown Eyed Girl when the lead moves up to the C chord. Who can figure it out and explain to everybody?

Neil
It seems to me that if indeed "Brown Eyed Girl" is in the key of G then the C chord is the IV chord. The notes in the key of G are G, A, B, C, D, E, F#, so in the key of G, C is natural not sharp. The intro thirds are done off of the G, C, G, D chord progression. When in the intro changes from the G chord to the C chord it uses thirds contained in the key of C not the key of G or C, D, E, F, G, A, B. Furthermore, when it goes to the D chord it plays a D triad located at the 5th and 7th frets instead of thirds.

Have I sufficiently muddied the waters?

Ric
if the key changed to G blues wouldnt the f# now become f
also isnt
xxx775, just an appregio of the d chord


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