chords to the key or scale??????????

[willem]

Hello, what chords do we(or can) use when the song is in C?? i understand it on this moment like this-------we have the scale C-D-E-F-G-A-B/ so we can use the chords C-D-E-F-G-A-B????

[reiver]

Hi Willem

No. These chords, assuming that you are talking about major chords are not all in the key of C. The chords in C are;

I.......C major
II......D minor
III.....E minor
IV......F major
V.......G major
VI......A minor
VII.....B diminished
VIII....C major

the roman numerals allow us to transpose these chord to different keys.

hope this is clear. and if it isn't correct, I'm sure I'll be pulled up about it!

r

[willem]

reiver wrote:

Hi Willem

No. These chords, assuming that you are talking about major chords are not all in the key of C. The chords in C are;

I.......C major
II......D minor
III.....E minor
IV......F major
V.......G major
VI......A minor
VII.....B diminished
VIII....C major

the roman numerals allow us to transpose these chord to different keys.

hope this is clear. and if it isn't correct, I'm sure I'll be pulled up about it!

r

THANKS, I KNOW I WAS WRONG,can you explane why it's D minor for example and not D

PS I know how chords are build up from the scale THE 1-3-5 NOTES, for C IS THAT CEG.

[willem]

Willem-

In order for a chord to be in the key, all the notes in the chord must be in the key. So the notes in the chords in the key of C, with their respective chords are

C= C-E-G= C Major
D= D-F-A= D Minor
E= E-G-B= E Minor
F= F-A-C= F Major
G= G-B-D= G Major
A= A-C-E= A Minor
B= B-D-F= B Diminished

Neil

[willem]

Neil wrote:

Willem-

In order for a chord to be in the key, all the notes in the chord must be in the key. So the notes in the chords in the key of C, with their respective chords are

C= C-E-G= C Major
D= D-F-A= D Minor
E= E-G-B= E Minor
F= F-A-C= F Major
G= G-B-D= G Major
A= A-C-E= A Minor
B= B-D-F= B Diminished

Neil

Alright i see now,when i used D there's a F# in it and F# IS NOT in the key or scale C. yeah yeah at one time everything comes clear.

[willem]

An other question, in what way are melodynotes related with the chords, i mean; why that chord on that part on the melody??

[Music Junkie]

Willem:

Usually the melody will come from the scale itself, or the relative major or minor depending on what key you are using. Example: You are playing in the Key of C Major. Melody from C major scale or A minor scale. Not always, but kind of popular in western pop and such.... Remember though, the only RULE is that there are NO RULES....lol

MJ

[willem]

Music Junkie wrote:

Willem:

Usually the melody will come from the scale itself, or the relative major or minor depending on what key you are using. Example: You are playing in the Key of C Major. Melody from C major scale or A minor scale. Not always, but kind of popular in western pop and such.... Remember though, the only RULE is that there are NO RULES....lol

MJ

Oke NO RULES,but i want a kind of discusion why you can use (for example) the C chord
under a kind of melody,(is it for the expression with lyrics, is it for the harmony) i know when its in the key of C Maj that i must use the notes of the C Maj scale to make a melody,,

ps what means LOL!!!?

[AndyT]

LOL = Laughing Out Loud

[Music Junkie]

willem wrote:

Music Junkie wrote:

Willem:

Usually the melody will come from the scale itself, or the relative major or minor depending on what key you are using. Example: You are playing in the Key of C Major. Melody from C major scale or A minor scale. Not always, but kind of popular in western pop and such.... Remember though, the only RULE is that there are NO RULES....lol

MJ

Oke NO RULES,but i want a kind of discusion why you can use (for example) the C chord
under a kind of melody,(is it for the expression with lyrics, is it for the harmony) i know when its in the key of C Maj that i must use the notes of the C Maj scale to make a melody,,

ps what means LOL!!!?

Are you asking why it works that way? If so, you are certainly beyond my knowledge. I suppose it would have something to do with the sonic vibrations and the way that certain notes and their corresponding tones mix well or not with others. It gets kind of subjective after a while, because people differ in what they find appealing. Eastern Music has a much different breakdown than does Western Music. More semi-tones and such. I would be very interesting to hear the real answer to this, if there is one.

Good Question Willem.

MJ