Weary Kind

[rtob]

I am following your FOTW for the Weary Kind. I too have been frustrated by the many (incorrect) variations found on the internet ... and by the variations done by Mr. Bingham. So I am finding your lessons with Kevin quite helpful ..... but I do have trouble seeing (and hearing) when you mention things like "move that finger up 2 frets, or move it here." Specifically, I cannot see where "here" is located (because of video angle). Also, this last note in the pattern is the first note in the next chord .... this too is very confusing.

Would it be possible for you to describe which strings and/or string order?

Thanks

[willem]

rtob wrote:

I am following your FOTW for the Weary Kind. I too have been frustrated by the many (incorrect) variations found on the internet ... and by the variations done by Mr. Bingham. So I am finding your lessons with Kevin quite helpful ..... but I do have trouble seeing (and hearing) when you mention things like "move that finger up 2 frets, or move it here." Specifically, I cannot see where "here" is located (because of video angle). Also, this last note in the pattern is the first note in the next chord .... this too is very confusing.

Would it be possible for you to describe which strings and/or string order?

Thanks

I did hear in the weekly wrap up that they would add tab files at the FLOTW..

[rtob]

I will be looking for those tab, but can someone comment on having the first note in the pattern (i.e., the b-string) as a pickup note (last note in a previous measure), then a bass note could be the first note in a measure. It seems that the picking sequence could be exactly the same, but a less confusing pattern since a measure would start on a bass note.

After all time is relative. I am sure that I am missing a concept .... but that is why I pose the question.

Thanks for any comments

[rtob]

Just saw the weekly update for March 23 ..... will there actually be tab for the weary kind????? When, where would one find it .... I have been looking?

Maybe a little more work, but the FOTW does not work for me .... to determine the picking pattern.

And, would someone (Neil ... is this your area??) please respond to the question stated above regarding the "pick up" note.


Thanks,
Rich

[lueders]

rtob

Look up BillyMisfits on U-tube. He does a wonderful version of this song. If you look in the comments, you will se where I asked him the picking pattern. Here was his answer: BDEBDE These are the strings no matter which chord your holding. Except for G, of course.

Yes, Bingham does switch around a bit, but that doesn't mean you have to.

I can play the song, but my fingerings are so wrong they'd probably ban me from the fourm!

Sam

By the way, I have the sheet music from Bingham and T-Bone and it is not the way Bingham plays it. Things like this just boggle what's left of my mind!

[rtob]

Thanks, I appreciate your efforts. I hope I can return the favor one day.

Rich

[rtob]

I am misunderstanding something I guess. I thought this was a forum to ask Neil questions????? I appreciate the comments by others, but I was hoping to get answers from the one making the videos ... the one that knows "which finger goes here" that cannot be seen in the videos. BDEBDEBDE may be what Neil (or Kevin) is playing, but that is not clear to me. And I still would like someone to address the "pick up note" question (B sting is the last beat of one measure and D begins the next ..... B / DEBDEB / etc.) I posed in an earlier post. Time is continually moving and one can accent any beat in a measure, but what else should one consider?

Again there are many patterns/versions for the Weary Kind on You Tube. Some in different keys (i.e. capo), some singers have good/great voices, others have terrible distracting voices, but .....

As far as I can tell, Neil has come closer to what I can hear on Ryan Bingham's versions than all others.

Oh, BTW BillyMisfits version sounds really good ... thanks for directing to that version.

[TGNeil]

Hi Rich,

If you could let me know where in the video (a time reference) you are asking about I will try to take a look. As far as the pick up beat, I addressed it a bit on the News Friday. I also mentioned that I am considering adding a little tab to this to help clarify.

Sometimes there are multiple ways to think of a beat pattern (look at the many misinterpretations of Tubular Bells as an example) and in this case the best way to understand it and get the right feel is for the higher note to be on the first beat and the bass note on the off beat. Listen to Ryan's singing and see where you tap your foot.

In general, the Fly On The Wall videos can't be as thorough as planned lessons for many reasons. Most of the songs I choose to put up are from the Target Program but occasionally I will do some like The Weary Kind. We are fortunate that some of my students are comfortable enough with the camera running to go about a normal lesson. They are going to have a candid and improvised atmosphere and if I were to try to direct or polish them to any degree there would be very few FOTW videos.

Neil

[rtob]

Thanks for the response. I understand that you (Neil) cannot spend a lot of time on some things that might be very transparent to most, and you cannot respond to everybody's frustrations.

SPecific location in the FOTW portion I referred to ... I think that I figured it out. it had to do with the A7 variations. But the the pattern still seems to be somewhat less than intuitive. But I think I can reproduce what you do when you play 2 measures of D.

Thanks again.

Rich