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could this be an effect of an 12 string guitar??? or sitar??

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:06 am
by willem
I love to add a second guitar to ''Norwegian wood''and figured out some chords on the top three strings with octave notes(octave notes are the fifth note from the chord) and was thinkin this could be an effect as a 12 string guitar...was i thinkin right??


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edit,,,I try to make my graphic/diagram clearer,,just play the first chord D only on the top three strings and with the notes shape A-D-A,,and move it up and down the neck in the same shape for getting the other chords lets say E...G....A...I know i called the chord by his full name but I am aware they are not the normal or full chords but if someone plays the normal chords then the shapes in the graphic/diagram can be added as a second guitar and then my thought is that it sounds like a 12 string guitar or a sitar...



On high school they told me to study furter has a architect,,I was good at drawning...lol :laugh: B)

Re: could this be an effect of an 12 string guitar???

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:03 am
by neverfoundthetime
Well, the 12 string has octave strings on the 6th, 5th, 4th and 3rd string so that's one octave (12 1/2 steps or frets) higher on the Low E, A, D, and G strings. the 2nd and 1st strings are double, that is these are two strings each but of the same note, B and E.

I'm not sure what the diagram is showing... its hurting my brain looking at it Willem.... not sure what to tell you?

Re: could this be an effect of an 12 string guitar???

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:04 am
by willem
neverfoundthetime wrote:
Well, the 12 string has octave strings on the 6th, 5th, 4th and 3rd string so that's one octave (12 1/2 steps or frets) higher on the Low E, A, D, and G strings. the 2nd and 1st strings are double, that is these are two strings each but of the same note, B and E.

I'm not sure what the diagram is showing... its hurting my brain looking at it Willem.... not sure what to tell you?


lets explane one box(inside the red lines) it tells the chord shape (yellow dotted ,,also I write it down..chord D notes A-D-A,,and the A's are an octave apart) that can be played,,,hope you understand.. that D chord is movable to the next chord shape E or G or A,,,my idea is playing that as a second guitar,,maybe with a difrent strummed rhythm over the first guitar or maybe the same rhythm.

I also edited my first post..

Willem

Re: could this be an effect of an 12 string guitar???

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:57 am
by tombo1230
willem wrote:
Lets explane one box(inside the red lines) it tells the chord shape (yellow dotted ,,also I write it down..chord D notes A-D-A,,and the A's are an octave apart) that can be played,,,hope you understand.. that D chord is movable to the next chord shape E or G or A,,,my idea is playing that as a second guitar,,maybe with a difrent strummed rhythm over the first guitar or maybe the same rhythm.

I also edited my first post..

Willem
I think I understand what you are getting at Willem. You play say a chord progression in first position say in 'G' and then play chords over it that are equivalent, but in a higher register using different shapes to achieve it. This should thicken the sound and add a nice harmony I am thinking. I think this works quite well with partial chords on the lower (higher sounding) strings. Neil plays lead with this idea as well.

Tom N.

Re: could this be an effect of an 12 string guitar???

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 11:39 am
by willem
tombo1230 wrote:
willem wrote:
Lets explane one box(inside the red lines) it tells the chord shape (yellow dotted ,,also I write it down..chord D notes A-D-A,,and the A's are an octave apart) that can be played,,,hope you understand.. that D chord is movable to the next chord shape E or G or A,,,my idea is playing that as a second guitar,,maybe with a difrent strummed rhythm over the first guitar or maybe the same rhythm.

I also edited my first post..

Willem
I think I understand what you are getting at Willem. You play say a chord progression in first position say in 'G' and then play chords over it that are equivalent, but in a higher register using different shapes to achieve it. This should thicken the sound and add a nice harmony I am thinking. I think this works quite well with partial chords on the lower (higher sounding) strings. Neil plays lead with this idea as well.

Tom N.

Yes,,but in this case I made partial chords with the same note in it and a octave apart (Chord D---normal we have the notes D-A-#F,,1-3-5 but in this case I used A-D -A on the top three strings..first A on string 3 second fret--D on string 2 third fret and agian an A on string 1 fifth fret...of course you can move this shape up the neck to serve the other chords such as E...G and A...this all for have a sound like a sitar(or 12 string guitar),,its for norwegian wood has I said..

Re: could this be an effect of an 12 string guitar???

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 11:46 am
by Max
neverfoundthetime wrote:
I'm not sure what the diagram is showing... its hurting my brain looking at it Willem.... not sure what to tell you?
Maybe this will help :

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Re: could this be an effect of an 12 string guitar???

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:04 pm
by willem
It was the A-D-A sound that atracts me to figure out the other chords with two the same notes in it for that progression..and it did hurt me too.. B)