Fleshing Out Campfire Songs

[BigBear]

Neil- I love your new campfire series but I have a serious beef!! Lot's of these songs have a neat intro or riff in them that really make them interesting.

Now I understand since these songs are free you don't want or need to give away everything but for us TARGET members how about an embellished tab to show these riffs? Maybe just stick a tab line at the bottom of the page with this info. That way the free guys get the full songs but the paying members get a little more interesting version. We don't even need the video to be changed if you show the riff.

The whole goal of having campfire songs is to have songs that are easy to play and you don't have to memorize them to play. But remembering these cool riffs is pretty tough for us old guys!

This would be another reason to join TARGET!

Cheers! :cheer:

[AcousticAl]

BigBear wrote:

Neil- I love your new campfire series but I have a serious beef!! Lot's of these songs have a neat intro or riff in them that really make them interesting.

Now I understand since these songs are free you don't want or need to give away everything but for us TARGET members how about an embellished tab to show these riffs? Maybe just stick a tab line at the bottom of the page with this info. That way the free guys get the full songs but the paying members get a little more interesting version. We don't even need the video to be changed if you show the riff.

The whole goal of having campfire songs is to have songs that are easy to play and you don't have to memorize them to play. But remembering these cool riffs is pretty tough for us old guys!

This would be another reason to join TARGET!

Cheers! :cheer:

Or add a 'riff video' to the TARGET side of things..

[Chasplaya]

AcousticAl wrote:

BigBear wrote:

Neil- I love your new campfire series but I have a serious beef!! Lot's of these songs have a neat intro or riff in them that really make them interesting.

Now I understand since these songs are free you don't want or need to give away everything but for us TARGET members how about an embellished tab to show these riffs? Maybe just stick a tab line at the bottom of the page with this info. That way the free guys get the full songs but the paying members get a little more interesting version. We don't even need the video to be changed if you show the riff.

The whole goal of having campfire songs is to have songs that are easy to play and you don't have to memorize them to play. But remembering these cool riffs is pretty tough for us old guys!

This would be another reason to join TARGET!

Cheers! :cheer:

Or add a 'riff video' to the TARGET side of things..

Now these ideas have merit, although again I guess maybe ... just maybe Neil would like us to have a stab ourselves at some of these things.

Just a thought

[AndyT]

I agree Chas. As much as I would like Neil to hand it to us, the whole reason we are members here is to learn how to play these cool bits along with the rest of the song. Neil is right to leave some of it up to us.

[AcousticAl]

I agree that we should try to pick out the melody from tunes-- I'm trying that with 'Who'll Stop the Rain' (with help from Combo's video!)- but I'd be totally lost with riffs. Even if I figured out how to play the beginning of 'Brown Eyed Girl' without Neil's help- it'd be totally wrong/illogical fingering.

[Music Junkie]

AcousticAl wrote:

Even if I figured out how to play the beginning of 'Brown Eyed Girl' without Neil's help- it'd be totally wrong/illogical fingering.

Al:

I have a hard time with them as well. I can eventually figure them out note-wise (with the help of some slowing down of the tunes). However, I can get a bit jumbled on the proper position to be in. I am really lacking on my scales and knowledge of said scales. I can play a bunch of different patterns, but I have not really figured out the use or application of them at this point.

[BigBear]

I'm not talking about picking out the melody! All of us can do that! I'm talking about songs with a signature intro or riff that when you play around the campfire people instantly know the song!! The "Oh Wow!" factor.

Margueritaville is a perfect example, Brown Eyed Girl, Wish You Were Here, From the Beginning and on and on. If I had the time I'd do it myself but if Neil already knows them, and the correct way to play them, why not just provide them to TARGET members!

Andy, if Neil wanted us to figure them out ourselves why does he provide them under the full song study? That's just silly to suggest that!! Also, I don't have a computer where I practice so I have to take everything I need from this site with me. There's no play along for me!

[AndyT]

You need a notebook computer with a wireless card. Makes it much easier to take Neil to your practice room.

[BigBear]

AndyT wrote:

You need a notebook computer with a wireless card. Makes it much easier to take Neil to your practice room.

Yeah, that's great but working part time with an unemployed wife hasn't left me with too many wireless notebooks in my future! But it's a heck of a good idea! :cheer:

[haoli25]

Im going to answer this one..

The campfire songs are for campfires...hence not comlicated..they are not meant to be full lessons that mirror the original recordings, that is for the full target lessons,and they are for the rest of the folk out their as an introduction, , and they are still coming weekly, also and this is a little heads up, we have soem campfires songs that are coming just for Target members, they will be a touch more advanced..