HA - too funny - you wouldn't be the first to have a joke about that aspect of her. But seriously, her nails are so long - she open-tunes the guitar a lot and just plays barres, but not on this one. I don't see how she pulls it off (only simple chords but still...)Scott It's a myth Dolly Parton carn't play guitar
Arms are too short
I'm lusting for women!
RicksPick wrote:
Dennis,
I always love your attention grabbing headlines and your posts, they're always thought provoking and or entertaining.
Startling statistic that. Good points all. It feels like deja vu. Previously Neil said that women guitarists and song writers tend to play/write material that can be easily tackled once we've tackled the songs that develop various skills. Well I'm sure that's true to some extent, but I can't believe that the same argument can't also be used for many of the songs and artists that are now in the TG song library.
The suggestions so far are great, many of them are in my song library and they write great stuff I'll add Carlie Brandi, Kaki King (if want to get crazy), Jewel, Mary Chapin Carpenter.
Neil and Matt - besides the fact that there are lots of good women guitarists and song writers out there who's material is worth teaching, there has to be another reason why there are so few women posting and participating in the forums at least. Sure there are likely to be a greater proportion of guitar players who are men, but it could also be that the library just doesn't call to women as much. Anyway, including more songs by women artists could just be the step you need to encourage a larger female membership; it's good business sense.
Food for thought.
Thanks for raising it Den.
Michele
I always love your attention grabbing headlines and your posts, they're always thought provoking and or entertaining.
Startling statistic that. Good points all. It feels like deja vu. Previously Neil said that women guitarists and song writers tend to play/write material that can be easily tackled once we've tackled the songs that develop various skills. Well I'm sure that's true to some extent, but I can't believe that the same argument can't also be used for many of the songs and artists that are now in the TG song library.
The suggestions so far are great, many of them are in my song library and they write great stuff I'll add Carlie Brandi, Kaki King (if want to get crazy), Jewel, Mary Chapin Carpenter.
Neil and Matt - besides the fact that there are lots of good women guitarists and song writers out there who's material is worth teaching, there has to be another reason why there are so few women posting and participating in the forums at least. Sure there are likely to be a greater proportion of guitar players who are men, but it could also be that the library just doesn't call to women as much. Anyway, including more songs by women artists could just be the step you need to encourage a larger female membership; it's good business sense.
Food for thought.
Thanks for raising it Den.
Michele
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michelew wrote:
This is an interesting point. Perhaps a good way to to get more information on this is to cruise the Internet (YouTube?) and observe what female guitarists are selecting to play. Also, keeping notes of what female guitarists in smaller venues select for their set list may give a clue, too . . . . . however, that may be a bit skewed, because many times, performers select songs based on what appeals to the audience. One thing that I noticed is that most females that I see playing guitar on the Internet (and in public for that matter) are also singing (the guitar is used to enhance the voice), and guitar playing is simplified while concentrating more on bringing the voice to the front (as it should be). Most male guitarists that I have observed are just playing guitar (many are backing female vocalists).
These are just my observations and yours may vary depending on your WEB surfing and social habits.
Here is another point that may need a separate thread . . . . but I’ll mention here, because it involves a song by a female artist. Remember that, if the song has a very simple guitar part, the general idea here has been that we should be able to figure them out by ourselves. I have the song Not the Doctor by Alanis Morrisette very high on my list of songs to block out to see if I am interested in it.
[video][/video]
At first listen, the picking pattern makes it sound a little complicated, but it is actually quite simple, repetitive, and there are only a few chords in the entire song. It becomes complicated as the layers of vocals, percussion, etc. are added. I wouldn’t ask for a full blown lesson on a song of this type because of the simplicity of the guitar part. However, I might submit a video clip for a quick comment on a section of the song that I may be having difficulty figuring out or wanted suggestions on ideas for playing it differently to simplify the chord fingering to make it easier or more interesting to play.
Just some random thoughts,
Hydroman52
Neil and Matt - besides the fact that there are lots of good women guitarists and song writers out there who's material is worth teaching, there has to be another reason why there are so few women posting and participating in the forums at least. Sure there are likely to be a greater proportion of guitar players who are men, but it could also be that the library just doesn't call to women as much. Anyway, including more songs by women artists could just be the step you need to encourage a larger female membership; it's good business sense.
This is an interesting point. Perhaps a good way to to get more information on this is to cruise the Internet (YouTube?) and observe what female guitarists are selecting to play. Also, keeping notes of what female guitarists in smaller venues select for their set list may give a clue, too . . . . . however, that may be a bit skewed, because many times, performers select songs based on what appeals to the audience. One thing that I noticed is that most females that I see playing guitar on the Internet (and in public for that matter) are also singing (the guitar is used to enhance the voice), and guitar playing is simplified while concentrating more on bringing the voice to the front (as it should be). Most male guitarists that I have observed are just playing guitar (many are backing female vocalists).
These are just my observations and yours may vary depending on your WEB surfing and social habits.
Here is another point that may need a separate thread . . . . but I’ll mention here, because it involves a song by a female artist. Remember that, if the song has a very simple guitar part, the general idea here has been that we should be able to figure them out by ourselves. I have the song Not the Doctor by Alanis Morrisette very high on my list of songs to block out to see if I am interested in it.
[video][/video]
At first listen, the picking pattern makes it sound a little complicated, but it is actually quite simple, repetitive, and there are only a few chords in the entire song. It becomes complicated as the layers of vocals, percussion, etc. are added. I wouldn’t ask for a full blown lesson on a song of this type because of the simplicity of the guitar part. However, I might submit a video clip for a quick comment on a section of the song that I may be having difficulty figuring out or wanted suggestions on ideas for playing it differently to simplify the chord fingering to make it easier or more interesting to play.
Just some random thoughts,
Hydroman52
Remember that, if the song has a very simple guitar part, the general idea here has been that we should be able to figure them out by ourselves.
I know this has been said before, and in theory I understand it. But the fact is, we are paying members of a site because we can't or may not want to figure songs out for ourselves. Do I figure some things out for myself these days? Yes, more and more often. But I've also been playing for about 3 years now. When I first started, I couldn't do that, and it took playing and learning a lot of songs to start to feel even remotely comfortable doing that. Even now, I'll often go to a fellow guitar-friend and ask them for help with it. I'd like to get better at it, and hopefully I will. I've been especially interested in the lessons where Neil shows you HOW to work out for yourself what is being played (the lessons, such as "Do You Love Me," that focus on ear training).
Again, there are many easy-to-play songs already in the Target catalogue so I don't see why an easy-to-play song by a female artist that people would like to learn should be excluded just because it's easy-to-play. And, like Shel said, I imagine more women guitarists would be attracted to the Target program if there were more female-friendly songs to choose from.
Suzi
I know this has been said before, and in theory I understand it. But the fact is, we are paying members of a site because we can't or may not want to figure songs out for ourselves. Do I figure some things out for myself these days? Yes, more and more often. But I've also been playing for about 3 years now. When I first started, I couldn't do that, and it took playing and learning a lot of songs to start to feel even remotely comfortable doing that. Even now, I'll often go to a fellow guitar-friend and ask them for help with it. I'd like to get better at it, and hopefully I will. I've been especially interested in the lessons where Neil shows you HOW to work out for yourself what is being played (the lessons, such as "Do You Love Me," that focus on ear training).
Again, there are many easy-to-play songs already in the Target catalogue so I don't see why an easy-to-play song by a female artist that people would like to learn should be excluded just because it's easy-to-play. And, like Shel said, I imagine more women guitarists would be attracted to the Target program if there were more female-friendly songs to choose from.
Suzi
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neverfoundthetime
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Looks like Neil's got a month of female artist songs ahead of him at some point 
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I'm all for that.
.I'm all for that.
I've been meaning to get into this, but Suzi is already ahead of me and I couldn't have said it any better! 
suziko wrote:
suziko wrote:
Edit: Actually, I just can't believe that this needs to be said in the first place...@#$%#$%
Again, there are many easy-to-play songs already in the Target catalogue so I don't see why an easy-to-play song by a female artist that people would like to learn should be excluded just because it's easy-to-play. And, like Shel said, I imagine more women guitarists would be attracted to the Target program if there were more female-friendly songs to choose from.
Suzi