The Circle of Fifths

AcousticAl
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Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:53 pm

Well if you understand the relationship between notes, intervals and so on, then it shouldn't be hard to memorize the circle of 5th's! :)

As for further applications, it's a handy and helpful tool for 'composing, for changing keys within a compostion, for harmonizing melodies, building chords'. I'm sure Neil would like to shine some light on the matter, so you might wanna ask him to elaborate on that.

thereshopeyet wrote:
Hello Vanessa

Cool video thanks.
I do understand how to located intervals going across strings ( Low E to high E) with respect to a root notes found on the 6th and 5th strings.
Seconds, Thirds, Fourth's, Fifths, etc.......

I watched Neils recent I'm Yours - Jason Mraz FOTW with Kevin (Target Lesson also) and I started to understand
as Neill goes into this in some detail. Neil discussed the relationship of Barre Chords in Keys from A and E families and their chord number fretboard logic.
It's is a great FOTW that I enjoyed very much.

I still can't say I know for sure that I understand / am able to use the information conveyed in the circle fully.
So now I wonder if there are further applications of the Circle that I'm overlooking with respect to Chords, keys or anything ?

Of course, it may be because I'm looking for something that's not there!

:blush: :blush:
:S


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Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:53 pm

Nessie,

That's a great post. Thanks so much for taking the time to make that video. So nice of you.


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Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:55 pm

You're very welcome Scott, am really glad that it was useful! :)

sbutler wrote:
Vanessa, I have never heard of this method. Could you give a couple of examples so I'm sure not to screw it up?
Scott
Well cut me off at the knees and call me shorty! That is the circle of fifths made easy. Thanks a million Vanessa.


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Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:56 pm

Aaaah thanks Den!!! :) :kiss:

dennisg wrote:
Nessie,

That's a great post. Thanks so much for taking the time to make that video. So nice of you.


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Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:23 pm

Nessa,

This is such a fun instructional video. You're a natural born teacher and your love for music shines through.

Perhaps this should be called the dancing circle of fifths. It looks like your fingers are doing a dance routine on the fretboard. Too cool.

Thanks Teach!

Shel


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Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:46 pm

Vanessa Wrote:
As for further applications, it's a handy and helpful tool for 'composing, for changing keys within a compostion, for harmonizing melodies, building chords'. I'm sure Neil would like to shine some light on the matter, so you might wanna ask him to elaborate on that.
That too would be interesting Vanessa.
I do have a tendency to over complicate but then I wouldn't be me if I made things easy for myself!

Using the guitar fretboard as a logical way to reason things out is definitely great way.


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Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:02 pm

nesh16041972 wrote:
Alright, this is what I mean, at least this is how it works for me personally:



:)


Hey Ness, thank you for taking the time to post that. I learned of this "1 down and 2 up" relationship learning 12 bar blues. I'm really crap at theory, but everytime I learn something like this it's like a light going on...very cool. Like you!

(Good work on the circle of 5ths diagram as well Dermott!)


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Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:04 pm

OK, Ness, you can't leave us like THAT. Now that we know how to find them (cause you've put together an awesome teaching video), please tell us the "why we need to know them" version. Is this something needed for lead or something of that sort?


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Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:05 pm

Come on, come on, Vanessa :) B) :laugh: :unsure: :woohoo:


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Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:02 pm

Terry,

It's currently very early in The Netherlands. So hopefully our beloved superhero is still catching zzzzzzs.

Given the HUGE question, you might want to put that one to Neil. I'm sure he could easily turn it into a lesson...or many lessons. Most of us could benefit from learning more about this.

The most obvious reasons for learning the circle of fifths is to learn the sharps or flats in each key and the keys that are closely related because they have one sharp/flat more or less than their neighbour. The order that sharps/flats are added to make the next key also follow the pattern (starting with F as the first sharp to make the key of G and then adding C sharp to make the key of D and so on). Though presumably you're looking for more in depth answer than this superficial one.

M.


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