Strumming From Notation - Give A Little Bit - Outro

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Neil

I was looking back at your Dave Mathews - Crash Into Me lesson to help me figure the strumming
with respect to the notation of the outro on Give A Little Bit.

When i listen to Give A Little Bit Part 6 Outro between 2.42minutes and 2.53 minutes in what you strum doesn't
seem to match with the notation.

Below is a picture of the notation and how I read the strums from it.
Is what I have done correct?

Please advise.

Dermot

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[willem]

Yep, you got it.

Why might he strum it differently.....? Well, mabye.......I barely use just one strum for even the same section, often it doesn't matter, just as long as you stay in time, strumming ain't a'set' or just 'one way' - thing.

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Vanessa Wrote:

I barely use just one strum for even the same section, often it doesn't matter, just as long as you stay in time, strumming ain't a'set' or just 'one way' - thing.

I reckon the art of automatic random strumming only comes with practice and perseverance.

The lessons here at TG, have it one way or another.

I'll keep at it.

[michelew]

Dermot,

If you have GPro you can listen to the way the music should sound and read where each note (strum) falls on the sheet music at the same time AND you can do it a a speed that is comfortable for you to play at the same time. Watch, listen, play ...slowly. If you do it slowly enough you really should be able to see and hear what to play. Then of course the trick is getting both hands to cooperate and play what you're seeing and hearing.

Give it a go. I find it really helpful when I'm having trouble getting the timing of a section right. I also find it useful to keep looping a section that is a natural phrase or series of phrases. It might not all come together at once. But you should get the feel happening regardless of whether you end up strumming it exactly the same as the music and exactly the same every time.

M.

When I read your question again, I'm not answering your questions. Regardless the approach works of rme when I'm stuck on a passage. It should work for you too.

[willem]

thereshopeyet wrote:

Neil

I was looking back at your Dave Mathews - Crash Into Me lesson to help me figure the strumming
with respect to the notation of the outro on Give A Little Bit.

When i listen to Give A Little Bit Part 6 Outro between 2.42minutes and 2.53 minutes in what you strum doesn't
seem to match with the notation.

Below is a picture of the notation and how I read the strums from it.
Is what I have done correct?

Please advise.

Dermot

Click Image To Enlarge

Hi Dermot[strike],,not sure if I am right but if I read the strums from your sheet then the first quarter note with a dot I would strum D(U)(D),,the characters between the parenthesis means it rings,,MMMMM confused already,,I'm thinkin the strums on the beat in quarters I guess..[/strike] forget this,,when I look at the lesson I'm totally confused..

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Michelle

I agree GPro is good.
I started using Song Surgeon, it's great for slowing down.
My problem with it is I can hear the slowed guitar but not always sure how to reproduce what I'm hearing.
In Give A Little Bit, I've been working on measures 20 to 26 by ear using Song Surgeon, slowed and at normal speed.
I can listen and play it fine but if I leave it for 10 minutes, I've got to really listen to get back into it.
I've listened to these measure for weeks now :dry:
I think it's a memory thing too. I forget the sound I've heard and am trying to play !
:S


Willem
Have a look at Dave Mathews Lesson - Crash Into Me, Neil explains the strums with respect to notation there.
In my interpretation here the Letter M, means missed strum (where the strings are not played but the hand keeps moving).

Thanks for the replies.

Dermot

[michelew]

Dermot,

I hear you and I hear that you've been playing and listening to the problem section for a while.

All I can suggest is:

- try not to worry so much, just play what you can and let the rest improve over time as you revisit it.
- keep looping the problem section, put it on you iPod. Walk around doing the normal things in your life with the loop playing until it's a earworm and you've got it playing in your brain all by itself (very Eco friendly - no batteries required ), or it's driving you crazy or you're over it and have found a new obsession (whichever comes first).

I often walk to work with an album or a single song on repeat. The earworms can be hard to shake (That's Life was driving me crazy recently - after Daryl posted the collab I still couldn't get the song out of my head).

Other than that.. I've got nothin' else for you.

Good luck.

M

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Michelle Wrote:

- try not to worry so much, just play what you can and let the rest improve over time as you revisit it.
- keep looping the problem section, put it on you iPod. Walk around doing the normal things in your life with the loop playing until it's a earworm and you've got it playing in your brain all by itself (very Eco friendly - no batteries required ), or it's driving you crazy or you're over it and have found a new obsession (whichever comes first

That's really funny Michelle, that's the very think I've been doing, obsessing to the point of self destruction.
I do see improvements from when I started the song so maybe a rest from it is due.
I might even see more improvement when I return to it.

I am beginning to think that learning a song (unless your an expert) doesn't come overnight, it requires spates of practice
mixed with spates of rest too, it's finding the balance.

Dermot

[Music Junkie]

thereshopeyet wrote:

I am beginning to think that learning a song (unless your an expert) doesn't come overnight, it requires spates of practice
mixed with spates of rest too, it's finding the balance.

Dermot

Dermot:

I subscribe to the same policy of working on it and then stepping away from it for a while (especially if it is particularly troublesome). Work on another part of the song, or even a completely different song for a while. There are many times that I notice a marked improvement after revisiting a song. Maybe because I am not expecting as much, or maybe because something else I have practiced has helped out. Lots of times, just because I am not as frustrated when I revisit the song...

Jason

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Jason Wrote:

I subscribe to the same policy of working on it and then stepping away from it for a while (especially if it is particularly troublesome). Work on another part of the song, or even a completely different song for a while. There are many times that I notice a marked improvement after revisiting a song. Maybe because I am not expecting as much, or maybe because something else I have practiced has helped out. Lots of times, just because I am not as frustrated when I revisit the song.

Time for a change of song for a while.

Dermot